Speaker 2: 00:00:13 what's up everyone? Welcome back to the overachievers gaming podcast for the Marvel strike force insider in segments. I am your host VASH AK. Charlie joined as always by my other host cohost. Whatever I'm talking about is Ashley pastrami. Dommy pastrami. How's it going? Dom you miss Javi Amit, this promise and a this week joining us from the wonderful place and the wholesome place that is read old England. They say read it. But yeah, we have full full metal here. Who does all of the, you know all those character intros of like you'd just unlocked the character. What do I do with it? He is here to talk to us this week. How's it going? Middle.

Speaker 3: 00:00:53 Hey guys, how's it going? Thank you so much for having me on. I totally didn't expect to get this far when I started doing these random guides were they're great and I hope I didn't say you're from the UK, but I would hope that people are going to understand the, could hear the accent and guess. Yeah, there was Maxons a bit of a mess because it's, it's hard from like the East side of the UK and half from the West side of the UK. So anybody like listening to this from the UK is going to go, where the hell is he from? That's hilarious.

Speaker 2: 00:01:16 I have like a Baltimore accident with like mixed in with, from living in New York for like nine years. So monster accent of bomber. Yeah, I'm just, yeah, hand in hand. Come on, let's go. I don't have any of that, but it's great. Anyway. Uh, you can find us on Instagram at OJI dot podcast Twitter at overachievers P. our website is being over cheaper.com where you can get this episode and every other episode where we talking about Marvel strike bores, male fashion advice, sometimes computer parts, maybe some video games here and there where we do have different guests on. We talked about video games, what we love about them, what we hate about them, all that fun stuff. And uh, yeah, that's good. Uh, metalwork and people find you if you do anything.

Speaker 3: 00:01:59 Yeah, you can find me on Twitch TV slash full metal to us that you've got to have the C U S on the end. Uh, for the LS it's the same as already using them, but that's really only if you're into a game called blue bull too, which is, uh, like NFL strategy. Again, cross with Lord of the rings. It's very, you know, it's essentially like, you know, imagine playing NFL except one team is all on the other team. National football league. Yeah. American football. Yeah. You're in the UK and you watch American football. Oh, good. Go Vikings. One skull. Wow. This is insane. All right. I'm going to name this podcast right now. I'm having, right. I feel like it's not a thing that you don't watch American football outside of America. That's why everyone makes fun of it so much. It's tough. It's tough because the hours and times always line up badly, but I'm impressed.

Speaker 3: 00:02:49 Okay, cool. I'd love it. Yeah. Check out this game. He taught about w when do you usually stream? Uh, whenever there's a game going on, we're about to hit. We're basically, I run a league, I run a private league for it and we're about hit our playoffs. So over the next couple of weeks you're going to see me a lot. I'm like mesmerized right now. I need to watch this. I'll send you a link. It's, it's essentially, it's a bargain at all times. Cool. Yeah. I'm, I'm in the video game version of a ball game and it's, it just gets more confusing from that.

Speaker 2: 00:03:23 All right. I'm definitely checking. I will put a link in the description below if you want to check that out. Uh, yeah, just you can hit the follow button and hit the turn of the notifications on and you can get notified whenever full metal goes on a screen.

Speaker 3: 00:03:33 Super honest. It makes me laugh because I were based on my leads based on Reddit as well, which is why I'm so active on Reddit with Marvel strike force because I'm on Reddit all the time anyway, and a bunch of people from the MSF disc Reddit follow me, follow I read account and I can just imagine them like seeing a new post score for me and going, Oh, it's a new guide. And then, and then five new posts go up. And it's like, what is this Jim? He's talking about why is it talking about funny did

Speaker 2: 00:04:01 that's, that's amazing. All right. We'll have to definitely check it out. All right, so what's happening in the past two weeks since we last recorded? There's some good stuff going on. Uh, I know that we just discussed about this just literally seconds before we hit record by the Falcon, came to nexus seven dash three I'm very excited about that. My a six red star Falcon is very happy about that.

Speaker 3: 00:04:22 So you got me PIP, dude. I got a five red stuff coin. And as soon as, and it's not just Falcon, it's Falcon and purple spiky balls.

Speaker 2: 00:04:29 Yeah. So I was already farming that stuff anyway, so I'm glad to be doing that. And not, uh, who was their core app? I think it was there before. So it sucks for anybody who's trying to go for that payday event, which actually just happened this week as well. Right. So, uh, yeah, that's great. I'm excited for that and especially since we are, we'll talk about this later with the announcement of the tech wing for you seven. But like now that that's the new meadow essentially for ultimate seven that makes it, uh, having Falcon farmable is very nice and makes it a lot easier for new players and players like us who have been around for a while. I think I just logged in like 590 days or some shit like that. But, uh, yeah, so that happened. Uh, the Elsa campaign is now here, so you can recruit the latest character from the supernatural team, which is, that team is ridiculous.

Speaker 2: 00:05:18 I was telling Don before we started that I faced a, a a supernatural team in blitz with my Ultron team and I got wrecked. I don't even think I was able to take a turn. Everybody just got to run out the court. And so I'm excited to see what happens with that. I'm not going big on, on supernatural and me personally because I just don't have, I have all my resources are going into my shield Colson team right now because I unlocked Coleson, he's at tier 13, level 70. And he's just destroying people and wore defense on them.

Speaker 3: 00:05:49 I literally got called some last night, picked over the things or completely broken or gold though I don't have any money.

Speaker 2: 00:05:57 Yeah, I, I'm in that same boat as well. Like everything is going to, I haven't built shield whatsoever because I uh, you know, as it was building a different team when shield got bumped. So I was like, yeah, it's fine. But like now I'm like shield medic is almost, I have a fury at third tier 13. Colson's a tier 13 shield medical beat, tier 13. Tomorrow I got, I'm waiting on uniques for shield security and shield assault and they'll all be tier 13, a level 71, but I mean you need it for that defense team because man, it's just like the only team that I've ever found to beat shield, uh, Colson is X men in one shot. That's the only team that I've been able to, otherwise you be guaranteed

Speaker 3: 00:06:36 fantastic. Four can do roughly about the same power. Um, and obviously fantastic for a fairly well burst at the moment because, you know, human talk, they're saying he, he's farmable but only in all, so not really. It's, yeah.

Speaker 2: 00:06:53 Yeah. So that was, that was the other thing too with availability updates. Human torch went to all the major orbs, which is great, but also sucks. I wish you were. They, I wish they would honestly just released the new campaigns with the new nexus, whatever. Give us some more characters to farm. Like it's how [inaudible]

Speaker 3: 00:07:07 the local farm Colossus flows. Please.

Speaker 4: 00:07:10 I still don't have classes in a locked, that's how bad that is.

Speaker 3: 00:07:13 I've got, I've got, I've got thanks to the, you know, the pants of hope can lead you to commodity the good in the red box. Yeah. I got Colossus to three stars off the back of that so I can use all three of those red styles and he's like a three star, 44 care power Colossus at the moment. And I'm like, just a few more styles please.

Speaker 4: 00:07:31 Yeah. I mean, I'm 260 days in the game and I still don't have classes that's nearly a year. Locked him with your wallet Dom. Come on now. I refuse. I refuse. There's principles at hand here and I stuck to them. All right. All right. I'm glad that you do stick to it.

Speaker 3: 00:07:47 Free to play or you either one 99 deal.

Speaker 4: 00:07:50 Hi. Bye. Yeah, anything that's stupid cheap

Speaker 2: 00:07:54 diamonds. Uh, when you say a dolphin, a Guppy, what do you got? I'll take Guppy sausage. What's the, what's the Italian version of a Guppy?

Speaker 4: 00:08:05 Uh, I don't other think that exists. I've got a tub of them. Hey sir, I'm an American. All right. Okay. Okay, sure. We'll go with that.

Speaker 2: 00:08:16 But on our last podcast, we talked about that the Elsa blitz was coming on the 26, uh, because of whatever it was on that Marvel blog and actually you could acquire Elsa via your wallet via on the tartan 22 that you're were event didn't start really until the 31st, which was Halloween, which makes sense cause she's in supernatural and spooky, blah blah blah. I've had really shitty luck with the, the Elsa orbs. I think I had just unlocked her yesterday just from the side stuff. So, uh, I think I've gotten like one blue drop from her, which is surprising considering that like, you know, all the other times I've done any of those character blitzes or the events I've, I tend to go pretty hard on those, uh, you know, refreshing up until a hundred cores and just, you know, spending 500 energy a day on the events and going from there. But how are you guys doing with, uh, the, uh, the event campaign? I thought it was fun. I thought the, uh, the mr sinister ending thing was pretty wild.

Speaker 3: 00:09:11 And until you realize that like you get to see how broken he is first time because that it's not that one nine is awful. It's such a horrible,

Speaker 4: 00:09:19 yeah. Yeah. I'm almost, I'm, I almost have her on locked. I'm excited. I have a very low supernatural team, but they just really a cool team to play and that's what I cared more about at the end of the day is this, if I have fun playing the team, like I'm not in the competitive mode a to like max out characters yet. So like for me right now it's just if they're fun to play, you know?

Speaker 3: 00:09:39 Yeah. See I'm like really? I'm hyper competitive. I,

Speaker 4: 00:09:42 Oh, so that I am that as a person, but I'm not married yet as a player,

Speaker 3: 00:09:47 I try to be hyper competitive while being free, almost free to play. That's my kind of guideline is I bet. And I only really get like you say the one 99 off.

Speaker 4: 00:09:56 Exactly. It's just like stupid. They start, the thing is like, there was like dollar $2 short deals. Like, you don't get too much out of it, but like you stack up shards and we're stacking up Charlotte. Even though the orbs, the shards to open up a orb sucks or power quarters rather, sorry, not shards. Um, like like 415 open up or it's kind of shitty. But like when you have stacked power quarters it doesn't really matter as much, you know? I don't know. Sure.

Speaker 3: 00:10:21 No, my was about 50, 50 and a half car and I run out of mystic stuff because I've already started planning for tier 14. You know, when Fox next really extreme X and they talked about being laser focused. Yeah. Like my, my lines take them economy because they, they literally have me tag those as mr laser focused.

Speaker 4: 00:10:40 Nice.

Speaker 3: 00:10:42 I've always been about getting this. That's why I write the articles about the legendary card. Always super focused on my farm in towards unlocking those legendary characters. Um, I'm actually going to get curious. Seven stars and then Audi legendary character. I will have it seven star will be invisible woman and that's because red star and Mysterio really, really so. But I should theoretically be ready by the time she comes around for seven star there too.

Speaker 2: 00:11:07 Yeah. I'm a sitting at like a hundred and a 300 for him and the raid store. And I think, shocker for me it's like five at a 300 or something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 00:11:15 So I wrote up shop is good. I'm like, I'm, what am I? I'm 187 out of 300 for a shocker. I triple refresh. I've been triple refreshing. Shocker. Since he was released. How are you free to go first in my arena? Sharps like almost, yeah,

Speaker 4: 00:11:32 yeah, yeah. Fair.

Speaker 2: 00:11:34 Hi. I, uh, I've had two arena shard merges happen to me in the past, like two weeks. And so I went from being in the top 10 every single day to now struggling to stay in the top 50

Speaker 4: 00:11:46 dude, which is hard. Yeah. And even for me, when my character is like my 200 K Teknor of a team, uh, I'm,

Speaker 2: 00:11:54 I'm struggling to stay in the top hundred. I went from 11 to now struggling hard to top.

Speaker 3: 00:12:01 Yeah. And I'm, I'm basically permit top five because I was the first person, one of the first people in my shower to get Phoenix. I was really early on Ultron as well and I got it with a woman next time round than basically a visible woman. Phoenix and Ultram, it's, you almost can't lose. It's about your defense. Um, I've got Colossus who is amazing and she has purity and then Mike Neato Ultron and freeness.

Speaker 2: 00:12:32 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Maybe that's a good try. I'll try that cause I have, um, I'm actually just doing an, an arena fight right now because like in the, in the minutes we talked I was at 25 and I just dropped a 42. So I mean I have

Speaker 3: 00:12:44 double D triple times on defense is the way to go. You basically just got to keep children alive as long as possible and the the eyes.

Speaker 2: 00:12:54 All right. That's a, that's a good try. Cause I think I'm running just being mainly because a, I mean it worked for a while. There was a point where I was stuck at like, you know, I couldn't get out of the top 20 but now I think I was running like a visible woman, a Colossus, a juggernaut and I can't remember who else. But anyway it was, it was about, it was, it worked for a while because nobody knew how to counter invisible woman cause I haven't visible woman at tier 13 yeah. So she's just [inaudible]

Speaker 3: 00:13:21 invisible woman and Minerva as well can stall out invisible woman ever Ultram Phoenix on a tyrant like juvenile a big time if you've, especially if you got high red stars can basically just stall out and survive the five minutes. And that's the only strategy I've cause I defense at the moment. It's not unbeatable, it's, it's almost, you know, there's no unbeatable combo. So you've kind of just got to try and find the thing that is annoying that the people just want to talk, which is why you're on the fence for a while. Cause Gordon, you helped me.

Speaker 2: 00:13:55 So fair. That's the, that's actually the best defense strata I've ever heard of. You make something. So knowing that people just wanna attack you or time or just time out to. But yeah.

Speaker 3: 00:14:05 So yeah, the, that's the one I've seen. I've seen coming. I go home, my on my child does it. There's a guy running nerve, a, an invisible woman together to hiring role. Trauma driven are not all trunk Colossus in Phoenix. Yeah. It's, it's really hard to be in five minutes.

Speaker 2: 00:14:20 We usually saved the team of vice for later, but I want to almost like re re come back to that or something cause that's really good. I'm gonna try that right now cause my defense is visible in Phoenix Ultron, Psylocke and uh, Colossus. And maybe I'll try that. Maybe I'll try. Uh, my biggest tank that I have is so isn't that great. So I know, cause I have highest characters I have right now I have a, a carnage is my highest and Falcon that iron fist and the star Lord. So maybe Luke kit know Luke cage gets wrecked too easily. But anyway, back on target. We'll talk about that in a minute. Uh, so we also had a, this week, we are the past weeks, we've had some really interesting blitz is coming up, which is good for new players, but I'm not so keen on it. So we've had Punisher blitz mystique, blitz, cross bone blitz really. And recently we have going on right now as the cable blitz with a little bit of the, uh, with the mishap of skinning only 30 shard as opposed to 35 charts. If you hit the top 10%, which is kind of shitty, but I don't know if that's a bug

Speaker 3: 00:15:22 or whatever confirmed by Zeke's that it wasn't intentional. I saw that they didn't make a path bottle, but she responded to something about it.

Speaker 2: 00:15:30 All right. So we'll see if that's working as intended or not and uh, and, and they're coming w whatever. So, and then fine. Finally clearing up the recap for the past two weeks, the new you seven meadow raid team is here, which is aptly named tech wing by Chu burger over at alternate reality. So shout out to tech, uh, to chew burger for this set up, which ends up being likes, um, scientists, Supreme Shuri, Manurewa, Falcon and Ultron. So what do you guys think about this? I know Dom, you're not anywhere close to [inaudible]. It's a cool team.

Speaker 3: 00:16:06 Incredible. It is like at any part in the gins life. Spotify, if I'd have said to you, scientists, Supreme is a met a character, much like being told that a year ago.

Speaker 2: 00:16:16 Yeah. He's like, who are you and what are you doing?

Speaker 4: 00:16:20 There's so many. That's the thing is like we shouldn't shit on new characters. And the same habit with Falcons. Like, Oh, so just don't character now power armor is like arguably one of the best topics. You know what I mean? It's like, I feel like we do this too easy.

Speaker 3: 00:16:32 Falcon wasn't great standalone. Right. Then we needed rescue as well because it's with power armor. It's the interaction between Falcon and rescue together that takes them from being really nice to this just because it's the fact that she could hit a special and then Falcon specials and then she instantly hits a road straight like Bach to Bach and then everyone gets a fence open. Then everyone does a, are we using like Falcon in a microcosm on his own wasn't that strong? You needed the rest of the team. I'm now, yeah,

Speaker 4: 00:17:06 but I mean I feel like that's a lot with [inaudible]. That's a lot of it though. It's a team based game. No, I mean I do. I do understand you're saying though like the, the standalone aspect is what makes it if it's good or not. Um, but no, I I, yeah, I feel ya.

Speaker 3: 00:17:20 That was, that was my ticket because when I saw falling and I was like, I'm quiet on the impression. I really like Falcon as a character and like in the MCU and stuff. So I was really looking forward to him and, and I wasn't impressed by his launch because his numbers were just so low. But then you realize like obviously the interaction between him and wall and him and, and rescue suddenly it's quite exciting.

Speaker 2: 00:17:39 Yeah. It just brings that whole new, a newness to that, that team for power armor and then putting him in rates has been interesting because like we have like nine on the board who suddenly have buffs and you hit his special and he just gives turn meter increase to everybody who's got buffs and also takes out stuff. Like that's what you need and you seven. Yeah. Just sure. Because you just run out of time, like timeout on nodes and whatnot. So it's very interesting and I'm kinda curious to see how that works out. Cause you know, the more turns you take, the more you can flip ups, the more you can survive. But scientist spring, it's just, it's just an interesting dynamic. So pretty, pretty exciting to see how like, you know, that's the thing that's cool about this game is like, it's still constantly evolving even though we shit on it so much. Uh, we just want it to be as good as we can. That's why we care so much. But, uh, anyway, that was a long tangent getting through the last recap and whatnot. But a metal, so you, you've made a name for yourself on Reddit by just giving us as the, by us as the community, a list of things to use with new characters when they come out by like giving us really detailed oriented, like, Hey, do you just unlocked a Shuri who's coming out soon? This is how you, I think you've done that already.

Speaker 3: 00:18:47 Yeah. It was going to be the worst one because I literally audio luxury the day I diary published the, it didn't get it the, so I was, it was a lot more theory crafting and I spent a lot of time watching all the people play Shuri on Twitch, going all YouTube and going, okay, so that we're sure. So I'll put back.

Speaker 2: 00:19:06 Yeah. So what, what got you to, what made you want to start doing that and being kind of like a content creator or something like that. But um, uh, what did, uh, yeah, so what prompted you to kind of like want to start going down that route and be like, Hey, like this is cool. Like I want to start doing this or putting the time and energy into doing that. Cause I, I've thought about doing like guides and like I have a, a video guide that I'm working on now that's kind of like, you know, here's the best auto blitz team cause I don't have time to blitz. So like these are the characters I put together to help auto blitz all the way through. Because you know, I hate blood so much. So it's like this is what works. But like what gives you that desire to do that? Because I fucking hate it.

Speaker 3: 00:19:45 I just got into it accidentally. I didn't intend to do this. I basically, you know what everyone else was like farming defenders when they were the first team. There was one guy in my Alliance who was like, no, no, the guardians are the team guardians of the team. I was be my Alliance leader chose on, he was like, no, we're going to build guardians. She's got a massive guardians. He and everyone else were massive defensive and I was like, I just, I don't want to build the feminists like everyone else. I want it to build shield from the word go. So, so I got this reputation as like whenever anyone in locked, always working on shield or unlocked fury, they were, they'd come to me and go, well what do I do with the shield? And I got really bought even in my own Alliance with answering the same questions.

Speaker 3: 00:20:23 So I thought I threw together the basics of the fury guide on my phone for my Alliance and then I noticed that and I published it at my lines and then I noticed that like on Reddit it was just the same questions. So I threw it on Neil. If you go back to my theory guy, this, I've got it timed as like every time I edited it when you sections, because the format didn't exist. I didn't, I made it up as I was going along and I was answering people's questions in the comments and, and it was only ever supposed to be to kinda just give something to my Alliance to go, this is what you'd do with fury because I've been using it for three months, four months at this point no one else has. Um, and the reaction to it was so popular. I went, well, okay, I've got, I've, I've had marketing for a while and I know he's gonna actually I can do some stuff with that. And then it kind of just went from there and now people are going to be, can you do a guide for this guy? Can you do a guide for this team? And um, you know, when people are bartering down my daughter, like do six guides.

Speaker 2: 00:21:19 Yeah. So what do you, what do you have next on the docket to do?

Speaker 3: 00:21:22 I'm bout 90% done with all from as a standalone legendary characters. Um, I've got all Tron almost finished. I again, it's a lot of this stuff is just testing things and I've been really lazy with all from, because anyone who's got it, I assume you have no, it's just he wins with any, any old teams. So you don't really tend to strategize too much for the guys of I go that will get me decent points in blitz, throw them in with Ultram and they don't have a team and it's fine. So I've actually been sat that practice trying out different combos to see what works so I can give some decent advice on top of that. Um, I've gotten, Minerva is about half dollars a guide. Um, but again, she is kind of the same only instead of whichever four guys you've got left, it's, it's whichever team has and has a need of a healer throw in over. And instead of the healer because she's like, I'm on, I'm also, I've been asked to do as soon as the six guides, which is about 30% done and everyone's going to hurt me far because I actually, it's like sinister six.

Speaker 2: 00:22:26 Are we good on ward defenses where, which is where I keep them right now. That's about it.

Speaker 3: 00:22:31 My, my, my one thing will always come back to if something goes, they're designed to be defenders, but unlike magnate on brotherhood who can punch 67 yeah, you can walk on shield and win handily if you try and do a punch up that high on sinister sex because you're fighting defenders, if anything goes wrong, you just lose because you know your villains fighting defenders. Yeah. So if something doesn't stay, if you don't stick blind to punish her or you don't manage to kill own first before I get to heal off, you just lose.

Speaker 2: 00:23:01 Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's the unfortunate thing with the, with those things that are just designed to work well. But like I've had weird winds on defense firm things like I'll look back and like somebody had tried to punch like punch it down like 40 K on my, I think my sister six or like 160 or 170 K nothing crazy. And I was like, Oh that's interesting. Someone like 200 K tried to Blake attack my defend my a sinister six. And they all just got wrecked. Like, and they're all just like, they're all level 60 and six six, six, four. So it's not like they're anything spectacular but still, it's like they're all, I think tier 10

Speaker 3: 00:23:38 I think it's one of those things is like people are so used to putting their teams together and the, so you use, you've got this mindset, you use ax men and Phoenix against calls from, you use, you know, shield against BKT or high defenders or whatever. And you have this like set of squads and no one's figured out what it is that just, you know, you just throw against sinister six. So they try and just mush five characters that they've got to pair together and go it'll be fine because it's only sinister sex and then they just get the

Speaker 2: 00:24:10 yeah, it's surprising like how quick they are. Cause I've tried that too of like just saying it's like okay I got like you know crossbones and Yon do and like maybe Hawkeye, Oh this will be fine. Or like before I can even go like more half of my team's dead. I'm like Oh well this whatsoever.

Speaker 3: 00:24:24 They are incredibly front loaded so if you can survive the initial burst we do win. I think M is possibly my, my choice for, I think M is one of those teams that if you want it to be seen as sexy you'd probably use them because they can take such a kick them and keep going.

Speaker 2: 00:24:40 Yeah. Yeah. Well yeah aim is unfortunately on my defense as well cause they're sitting at a 150 K right now. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 00:24:47 Okay. My name is 60 gay dude, just done power armor for the guide and I've just saved up like all of my techie to do instantly from a Colson. Yeah. And I also just got my citizen sexual play tier 10 as well. So I don't have the tech gear to invest in Emory.

Speaker 2: 00:25:06 Do you check yours? What's really screwing me in? Every, in every aspect. So I feel you there. Yeah. And you're, and you're going to be hurting soon, Dawn, cause you're gonna about to unlock Colson. So, but you'll have to start working on that. Wait Colson's tech. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3: 00:25:22 Even here. So there no response.

Speaker 2: 00:25:25 Yeah, it was a, it was a weird thing because like his, I was expecting his unique to be something different, but it's like the shield thing that is the same as shield security. So it's whatever the uh, yeah, the superior shield tag, which makes sense I suppose. Like it's just, boy, so much things to work on long enough to do,

Speaker 3: 00:25:42 um, pebble spiky balls and lizards archers.

Speaker 2: 00:25:44 Oh, great. Yeah. And then guess what, Dom, you have to do it all over again once you unlock Altron yeah, but at least we'll all try on like that'll be worth, that'll be worth it. Yeah. That's when he started to say, fuck it, I'm just gonna buy the offers because it just gets me, it just, it saves like literally two, three weeks of time, 20 bucks it gets, it's one of those things where you're just like, okay fine, whatever, it'll do it. I luckily had enough saved up cause I was working on aim before I unlock calls it. And then once they announced calls and I was like, okay, I'm going to switch gears and start to save from that. So I'm like, all my aim are like 52 53 something like that. And slowly working on it and then all of a sudden like, Hey, scientists, Supreme ISMETA now for rates.

Speaker 2: 00:26:22 I'm like, God damn it. Now I have like all this other things to work on. But now, like we said before, I'm, I'm working on getting my, uh, Colson shield team up for award defense because on the last two Wars I've had, I've had over 10 wins per that one team. And now they'll almost, I think by the end of this weekend I'll have them all at tier 13 or in level 71. So it's gonna be real hard to beat when you coming up against me cause I'm in security, so they all just get wrecked with the defense down. So it's gonna be ridiculous. But

Speaker 3: 00:26:53 I've, I've, I've just, if you put Colson's and you put them in securities, you put them in reactors. Oh my God. [inaudible] in reactor is, is absolute cancer. It's, you can't, it's just so hard to be react as a horrible thing to the talk anyway. Yeah. And you, you fight and calls and you, Oh, it's just not, it's not fun. It's not fun.

Speaker 2: 00:27:13 Yeah. It's not going to be, no, I don't, I don't envy anybody who tried to do that, which is why I try to use all my high teams before reactors so that all my life mates have to worry about it. So sorry, everyone who's listening, that's what happens. That's why I'm like blowing my load before that all happens. But uh, moving along, we have what's coming up next in the next couple of weeks. So we have chewed or three new characters coming out soon. We have hella, which I think is coming on next week and they'll blitz, which I'm, I'm looking forward to hella, I'm not looking forward to having to blitz for her. I, I really dislike the blitz mode and I know they said that they're changing blitz ever so slightly to make it more, make all the characters, especially I got 8.3 more, uh, attuned to like whatever your character levels are.

Speaker 2: 00:27:56 So I'm curious to see how that breaks the game, which it probably will and cause you know, at 8.3 when I have my 300 K ultra team doing blitzes, like I'm facing off against like 480 K teams, which obviously can't win. You can't do anything at that point. I sent in suicide teams, I stay at like two or seven. I just then suicide teams in like my level one characters and just to reset me back to like tier six or tier five and I just had auto again and I'm good to go. Right. So, uh, and then we have Stripe coming soon, which we haven't had a, uh, had anything like a timetable for that yet. And then mr sinister is coming soon. I know in our last episode we talked about how broken mr sinister is. So I'm curious to see how they release him.

Speaker 4: 00:28:37 People have been saying that he's being overhyped.

Speaker 2: 00:28:40 I think so. But then after seeing him in the campaign at the very last night with the campaign, I think, I think as a middle ground, I don't think he's going to be sad strong as he was. But then also I think he's going to be, you know, not as like, Oh he's overhyped. I think he's, he's gonna be fine. So

Speaker 3: 00:28:58 I am putting my flag in the thing. It's not, he's not overhyped he's going to be the new arena matter too, because it doesn't matter how much weaker the version of the character you steal is. If you steal a second Ultram, you've still got two worlds. You've still got two phoenixes.

Speaker 4: 00:29:18 Right. I thought when we say steal, and this was what I was thinking when we say a steel, I thought he was literally stealing attuned from your side and bring it to his side. Clones, clones it, which is still cool, but he would have been overly insane if you physically like stole a character from your team called mechanic. And that's what I thought. Because not only are you losing a character, but then you're killing your own character. And that's why I thought it was. And when I heard that, I was like, uh, wow, this is, that's the, that's the most broken thing I've ever heard of. That would be a cool mechanic. But also that would be, that would be game. I think that'd be game breaking if that was the case. But it's not the case. The cloning is cool. Seeing it firsthand was cool. Uh, thank God it's random, right? The cologne. No,

Speaker 3: 00:29:59 it's, it's wrong with it all. It's targeted for you. So, um, like I said, in arena, you just texted with Phoenix and then it doesn't matter if you're doing 30% less damage than not Phoenix anomalies, you still have to dock Phoenix Hills, which is an AOE white every buff on the board. It doesn't ma, it did zero damage. It's still be incredibly powerful for just because it wiped out everyone's DebOps and then you can then your own Phoenix comes in eventually. You know what I mean? It's, it's crazy. He's gotta be, he's gotta be on everyone's arena team.

Speaker 2: 00:30:34 Yeah. Do you think he's going to be a legendary character or what? I know you have to die. You leave soon. Don't be silent about it. Yeah. But uh, so Dom's leaving early, he's going to Philadelphia to, you know, uh, vehicle and hang out down there and eat some cheese steaks. But uh, it's all right.

Speaker 4: 00:30:49 I didn't even think about that. I'm having a cheese steak. Mallory getting cheese steaks.

Speaker 2: 00:30:53 Good. Go to a, what does it tone? Not tone. Not you don't go to the two ones? It's a Tony. Tony. Yeah. Tony Luke's. That's the place you want to go. Yeah. Uh, just keep the window open so that way it doesn't disconnect and then uh, he'll be fine. So if you got to go, it's good talking to them. Enjoy it. Don't die. Please. Thank you. Thank you. Full metal. Thanks again buddy. I appreciate you man. Nice to meet you and thank you so much guys. It'll just be full metal and myself talking from here on out. So, which is good cause we're about halfway through the podcast anyway, so I worked out, so

Speaker 3: 00:31:20 that was, that was that Bob did. So if you missed him, I was loaded, so I'm sorry.

Speaker 2: 00:31:26 Yeah, I thought it's all good. He was, he's not here to defend himself anymore, so it's perfect. So it's Tom's fault for having, you know, things to do on the weekends. I mean, I mean we all, we work so much during the week. Why can't you get things done during the week? Dom C? Yup, exactly. You can't defend yourself. So there you go. But yeah, I think I agree. I think mr sinister is going to be the new arena. Metta and I'm con, I'm like just watching for iTunes card sales just to see what happens cause I'll probably pick up probably, I mean I'm not one to, I don't, I've, I've switched my spending habits to more resource based as opposed to character based because I think the characters are wildly overpriced and not anywhere near what they should be. So I've like switched to like, you know, I'll, I'll, I'll buy like, you know, $100 gift card for iTunes for like $85 us here. And then, uh, when they go on sale like, you know, every eight weeks or so, it was something like that. I'll pick it up in the yard cause I'm essentially getting more bang for your buck or whatever. And then as the gold offers come in, I'll spend the 25 bucks to get the gold offer for that. Cause you know, I, for me personally, like I, I work in an industry where like I, I fortunately had the option of like, you know, I can write it off as research so it kind of works out.

Speaker 2: 00:32:40 Right? Yeah. Yeah. And then I just got a tax bill in the mail. That's great. Can't wait. I have to deal with that this weekend. But um,

Speaker 3: 00:32:47 well yeah, and you might be happy to know though, from what I've heard. I mean, obviously it's not 100%, but from, I've got my ear to the ground a lot, so I get a lot of people like coming to me with like leaks and rumors and stuff or what I've heard for sinister is his compelling event again. Okay. Um, I think they're gonna do you know like with the Falcon and rescue thing where there was like half of the story with fall coming in the half of the rescue, um, an Elsa like the whole campaign leads up to meet and sinister at the end. I think storyline wise the, the second half of the competitors will be us to, sorry from its kind of core but it also means that if sinister is his campaign based it's everyone's almost going to have a five star. So mr pretty, yeah, that's true. Which is scary. I don't want, I don't want that.

Speaker 2: 00:33:33 No, that all that will be, I mean it's the same thing with like Phoenix is like, you know, whenever the first couple of people who unlocked Phoenix as six red six star out the gate was like the top of the arena charts for awhile and then the other one came out and now it's just like, you know who can stay at the top for the time being. So we'll see what happens with that. Like part of me is like, yeah, that'd be great because then I could get a five star, Mister sinister, but then it's also like, Oh, but then everyone has a five star. It's mr. Senator. Fuck.

Speaker 3: 00:34:01 My point is can you clone mr sinister and have him call on someone else and does it continually degrade their starts or do they all the colognes coming out just that the standard degradation in which point can you not just claw like 20 ms. They have five mr Sinisters and then five phoenixes.

Speaker 2: 00:34:17 Yeah, that'd be cool man. That sounds ridiculous, but at the same time that's the fun part about it. It's the theory crafting and I thought, I'm excited to see the gifts in the videos on Reddit when it all comes out.

Speaker 3: 00:34:32 I'll be honest with you, I enjoy it. That's why I got into the guides and stuff is because I along, I love looking at the interactions between characters and trying to figure out, you know, what character I can put in, what team to do to do what with them and like I've really enjoyed this part as part of the guide. There's a lot of people are sending me these non-metal suggestions about, you know, if you, if you take the magnate when you switch out like mystique and saber tooth and put miles and I'm running, it massively increases the strength of the team and I don't take it out. Someone else told me about it.

Speaker 2: 00:35:00 Yeah, I, I do. So with my, so that's, I've often, like I said, I was working on like an auto wind team that's actually part of my auto win team just because at least for me personally, like I have a 76 cake carnage and he, like, I've been trying to find a place for him to live. And so like for me, I have a, I've done something similar where I have juggernaut and venom, Magneto, carnage and pyro. And so by the time carnage does his special, everyone's got a shit ton of buffs on him and he hits the main target for 250 K with this special and just deletes that character. Um, and then, you know, with his, with how the turn meter goes for everything, it's just like carnage goes, they make or Magneto goes and carnage and then venom spreads all the buffs. Uh, and then if somebody is still alive, pyro that does is his special and like puts it bleeds on them and then everyone's just dead. So

Speaker 3: 00:35:47 it's absolutely great against stuff like BKT as well. RET speakers, which is such an, obviously it's a really common threat. You need time you need to encounter. So especially now that you can't rely on brotherhood to clear shield because every shield team under the sun now has calls from with them and he just destroyed his brotherhoods. It's really nice that you can pivot with a couple extra check character genders and find something regular for brotherhood to be able to still be.

Speaker 2: 00:36:13 Yeah, I haven't, I have carnage on defense right now with my alternate just cause he's, uh, he's with the buffs and everything. Like he's like a 90 somethingK , so he's, there's scary for people. And then I've had a couple of people back out because of that. And so I might switch them back onto the offense once I get something else going with that. And you use that team for maybe six up. But what I, the one thing I like using for that, uh, brotherhood teams, I put kingpin in and I keep mystique because a, and fight against BKT because with the alt from kingpin is right before rocket does his all. So you have the defense ops, everyone at least survives the rocket all and then you can say pirate or special.

Speaker 3: 00:36:49 The video I saw actually, um, very, very recently about doing exactly that, using kingpin in brotherhood, but you also swap mystique out as well as services and put crossbones. Oh that's interesting. And apparently absolutely destroy your big cause you get King Pinnell off and then you get crossbones all off and it absolutely decimates to take.

Speaker 2: 00:37:11 All right, I'll give that a try and set a mistake cause I have a, maybe I'll put mystique in for carnage in my a Ultron team and then we'll go and I'll try. All right, I'll try that and report back later.

Speaker 3: 00:37:21 I think the whole, it's, it's fun in places people that replacements do you consent to for them anyway because they are about to start off to morose.

Speaker 2: 00:37:28 Yeah, exactly. With strife and Mister sinister. So we'll see what happens that like it just adds, I like all these different ways of thinking about things. I mean that's part of the thing that we've said in the past with our love it and hate it. A segment of like what we love about the game is like really for me it's the theory. Crafting is figuring out things and what we can do, what we can't do. I mean that's the whole point of the game. It's the whole reason why I still play. If it didn't have this theory crashing, I think I probably wouldn't still continue to play this game because it's a cash grab. I'm just like, huh.

Speaker 3: 00:37:54 I I, this is something that I was frustrated with for a long time as well in that they were releasing full teams. So you didn't really have any wiggle room or any choice. You, you had brotherhood, you had fire members, you had, uh, defenders, what, like essentially five members all or you can flex a Punisher for miss Marvel I suppose. But you had, then you had these other team you had, you know, so fantastic for how five, six members and it's, it's very common to have five or six members. And it was felt and feeling like they were trying to shut down this kind of, uh, ability to mess around and mix and match and stuff. And, and I'm glad that there's, there's small teams that are coming through when you see like [inaudible] seven, which is people to, to think on their feet and, and mix.

Speaker 2: 00:38:38 Yeah. Mixed the full man. Ultimate seven [inaudible]. We're running ultimate seven twice a week on weekends. So we run in one on Friday and one, uh, today, I just actually launched it now for our, our Alliance. But it's just like, man, it's, I don't know if they bought it slightly because like, I could do the first two nodes, no problem with, uh, with my different routine that I have. Uh, but man, I tried it yesterday and I couldn't get, I had to heal twice. On the first note, I was like, what the hell is going on?

Speaker 3: 00:39:08 We haven't actually tried it yet because it's hard. We can 100% [inaudible] and at the point where we're at, we're getting, because obviously the, the whole thing about the, all the seven points aren't really comparable. The points per node you've got to do like why is it 38 40%

Speaker 2: 00:39:27 37% is the technical number. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 00:39:30 So we didn't want to ask people to have to go out and potentially spend resources when ROAS, if we just a hundred percent old sets every time. We're getting slightly more red season rewards than a lot of our alliances around us who've switched over to [inaudible], which means that at the end of the day we are ranking higher in red season rewards to get the extra T falls. So we haven't,

Speaker 2: 00:39:54 yeah, I mean, I mean you definitely need a team like my, so I have what I dove is the best rate team, which has much more of a rocket than I was invisible men and Star-Lord. Um, that's what I use for at least the first two nodes for old seven. That's a 280 K and they'd get wiped and they're all a tier four, tier 13, um, at least, uh, every, well everyone is four red stars except for an invisible woman. She's unfortunately only three, but it's like they still don't survive that whatsoever, which is kind of crazy that like I've spent all this time with this and like they'll all die like turn to and that gonna have to go back in and read, heal them all and do that stuff. So I've started like figuring out how do I, that's why I was like happy to hear about tech Wayne cause that's something else and sustain this so necessary. And that until you go into 75,

Speaker 3: 00:40:35 one of the tips that I am seeing come through is this idea of using like a turn of your team. And then and then let the policy and then you maybe use another half turn and then just let the note Tom house. So you don't have to. And it's just that it doesn't feel fun to me. I feel personally, and I've said this on Reddit before in independents cause the, the two players you'll see me as posting guides and complaining about things. We do it because we love it. Right?

Speaker 2: 00:41:00 Yeah. We do it because we want the game, we enjoy the game and we want the game to be fun. And that's the whole point of gaming is to have fun and like, you know, I mean it's honestly, it's like if the game was more fun and more competitive and they had different modes in there, like, you know, like a tower mode or something, I'd probably play it more often and not spend all my time on blitz. If blitz didn't suck,

Speaker 3: 00:41:22 I don't spend eight hours writing a guide for again because I don't love it. Right. So if I seem a bit negative on Reddit, it's literally because I care.

Speaker 2: 00:41:34 Yeah, exactly. I mean, I personally don't really give a shit about the Marvel aspect. Dom's the comic efficient auto. So like for me it's like I like the theory crafting and the and the game play and like what the technical aspects of the game is what drives me and I think that's kind of cool. And also the competitiveness of like trying to come up with different ways of doing things and that sort of stuff. So that's my dig on the game. That's why I still continue to play it. And also like thinking of like, okay, well I'm building this team now. I've worked on this and like I'm seeing the fruits of my labor of like, you know, having the Colson team be like all tear thirteens and whatnot and just wrecking everybody who comes around. I was like, okay, cool. Like that's cool to me. Like I like my thoughts on how to build this character has actually paid off and therefore it's like, you know, I'm seeing it how it works out so well. That actually takes us to our next segment since we're just talking about it. The love it or hate it. The segment where we talked about one thing we love about the game and one thing we hate about the game, so metal. I'll let you decide which one you want to talk about first and how the you want to come along.

Speaker 3: 00:42:29 No, you know why? You know, I think almost anybody who you spent any time on and knows what we're all going to say we have. Again, it's politically yeah, is crazy. The argument that I've built about this or I've put it together and I, I'm, I'm writing an article about the things I think the game does well and things that the game could do better in my, my personal things with it, so I'm going to give you like a small exit as a, as it were to me is it's priced as, it's, it's controlled like a primary resource, but it's actually a secondary resource because it's used across the board for everything. You need gold to promote Ranka characters. You need gold to level of characters. You need gold to equip gay. You need gold to any goal for everything in the game, which makes it a secondary resource because if it's an underlying thing, you need primary resources for every single one of those things.

Speaker 3: 00:43:19 I said you need character shards or T R building materials or [inaudible] pieces. Um, but gold comes in as a secondary resource because you need it for every single one of those things too. But it's controlled. It is tightly controlled as a primary regionals. Yeah, and that makes no sense. If you play all the mobile games, I play final fantasy Brea of activists and Gill on that essentially does the same thing that gold was here for. It's about 10 times more available. So it doesn't matter about you're about to drop 3 million to promote a character at seven style because you have 20 million because it gives you more than enough because they understand that as a secondary resource, you can't use it if you don't have it. And therefore bottle-necking primary resources and bottlenecking secondary resources just kills, kills players. It kills your coat. Oh,

Speaker 2: 00:44:10 again. Yeah, it kills. It kills your entire business model at that point. And we've talked about that too. It's just like if they just made it more available or even like, you know they had a 66% increase recently. Like well just leave that as the thing and like we were getting like, you know, 40 K a a no to just like refreshing. I spent so many course just getting through that just started just to get gold up. It's just like, yeah it's, I agree. I think that's a, that's a probably a pretty sound

Speaker 3: 00:44:36 route to go log in calendar where they gives half a million a day. Did it, didn't break anything, help people improve their accounts. But the thing is because everything's controlled by our primary sales people, you'll, you'll see people ask for more golden goal, but soon everyone will have level 70 accounts and they're like, no they won't because they won't have the training modules to promote people levels. Yeah, that becomes a problem. The training model becomes the primary resource again. Like it should be. And then you've still got to strategically use the goals.

Speaker 2: 00:45:04 Yeah. Cause it's, it's still not just running everyone up, but it looks like either that or just take away the, the gold necessity for like loving up characters or promoting characters or anything like that. It's like it just needs a little bit more fine tuned Mitt I would say so. But at this point they can't take that away because then everyone who, you know, if they take it away, everyone who's like, well I spent all this money on gold, blah blah blah now whatever. So it's just like, I feel like the, the answer to that is just increased over Wars or just give us more goal or just give us, you know,

Speaker 3: 00:45:34 just loosen the bell a bit. We all have jobs, we don't need the get to be. I was second job.

Speaker 2: 00:45:39 Yeah. So with the a, yeah. So what's the, what's the, the tail end of that then? What do you love about it?

Speaker 3: 00:45:45 I love the, everything that isn't controlled by the money guys. The art is X. I'm a, I'm a comic guy. I'm a comic geek too. I grew up reading the comics and stuff. So every time they release a new character, I'll, I'll flash back and like, Oh, there's a great story with that guy. And then, you know, it makes you want to collect the characters. I, I have every character in the game apart from hell of them. Uh, because I love the collection aspect. Um, and I love seeing these characters again to use these characters that I grew up with. But the, the animations and the art every time been really good recently. Like mysterial was incredible. Like he's not a particularly great tune in the game, but if you time sent down a times one and actually watch his animations that brilliant, the art guys smashing out the park, um, I love novel for the same reason his, his old animation is brilliant. Um, and you can't fault those guys. They're putting their heart and soul into creating the art and the animation. The stories like the compares stories are always fun to read because they, yeah, they seem to actually fundamentally understand that the characters they're writing about,

Speaker 2: 00:46:50 and also get a little hint of what's coming up next too. So let's have you pay attention. And you can actually kind of get an idea like what, where the game was going. Um, but if you don't pay attention then you can't get it to, you got to pay attention, all that stuff. But yeah, the, the art style is great. That's part of the reason why I started originally, like when the game first came out because I was just looking for a game to play. Uh, cause I work in the film industry. So it's like I was sitting at a monitor all day long. I was like, Oh, what's the gotcha game that I can play this not, Oh here's a Marvel game. Cause I didn't want to play contest of champions cause I was like, I hate fighting games. So I was like, Oh I like strategy, RPG, tactical stuff.

Speaker 2: 00:47:22 So like Oh this is kinda right up my alley. And then I got like real sucked into it real quick. So there was that aspect of it. But yeah, the great, the storylines are awesome. It's, I mean it's the same like that with, with any industry relates. There's like there's a bunch of people who have put their heart and souls in and stuff, but it's just like the higher ups that really just want to control everything. It's like, no, this is the way we need to do it. We need to make money, blah, blah, blah. So

Speaker 3: 00:47:43 I see. I do feel like sometimes they don't quite understand exactly why that the game is as popular as it is and they may have things that don't necessarily make sense from that perspective because they don't understand what we love about it and why we keep playing and they just go, Oh well money in our pocket. We don't care. As long as they're getting money in our pocket and they don't even understand necessarily why we're spending what, what is more of it is to spend the thing that, you know, look at the book, look at the offer. It's like, what, 50 orange T4 for materials for 20 quid. Like who's buying that?

Speaker 2: 00:48:15 Oh, that's it's, that's on the cheap end. It's like $60 for me in the U S it's crazy.

Speaker 3: 00:48:21 It's, it's, it's, I don't know. I don't get it. I just, this doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2: 00:48:27 Well I'm hoping that one day that we can actually get somebody a from Fox next on the podcast and talk to them about that stuff cause uh, but that'll be a day where like I'll have to come super prepared and actually have a good time and talking with them. Cause like, you know, I, I'm just curious from like a business perspective how that all plays in what their goal is. Like I understand that they have uh, you know, bottom lines and line items and all sort of stuff to kind of like to, to aim towards everything. But I'm also trying to, I'm curious about like where they're going with like are they catering to the community and whatnot. I was like, is there a certain point in which they say, okay, you know, we've made X amount of dollars or whatever. Actually I'm just thinking about this yesterday. I'm very curious to see where they're at. Cause I know year one, which the game wasn't very popular whatsoever, made like $150 million. So now I'm curious to see. I would, I wouldn't put it past them that they've doubled if not tripled that number going forward. So

Speaker 3: 00:49:18 I think it says a lot that our attitude towards the pricing, when do you remember when they did miss Marvel? They'd be like 50 shards for one, $2 or something. And everyone went read it. When it's an era, it's a price in our body quick, they're going to, they're going to remove it and then, cause Cerebra actually had to go and go, no, no, no, this is intentional. But we're so used to them trying the gouges that we saw this deal and we're like, buy it now because it's an IRA.

Speaker 2: 00:49:41 Yeah, well they're doing that right now. I think they have a 45, uh, Scarlet witch charge for two 99 U S so it's like that's the same, it's the same thing. So it's like, I mean, I'm all for, I'm all for it. I think it's great.

Speaker 3: 00:49:55 Upload your way as well because she's [inaudible] try to make a matter squatter with scholar, which she's on supernatural so, and I know she is an arena tune so she's fairly easy to farm, but she's also, you know, on that led his team. I was so surprised to see that.

Speaker 2: 00:50:08 Yeah. And that's what I think it should be. Like if they take some character charge, you know, you know, make it, we've, we've had this discussion, we're beating a dead horse at this point on this podcast so many times, but it's like if you take that, you take that, uh, you know, those, there's new offers when I'm, and you make 'em $15, $20, you know, something that's not 50 to like a full price video game. I'm going to go finish up borderlands three after we're done here. Like pick a game that I've spent, I don't know, $60 on and I have like this, this whole list of things in the game or whatever, uh, you know, a full experience as opposed to a game that I like. You know, granted I, I play probably play more Marvel strike force than I do any other console games, but still it's like take that level of integrity or not integrated, the level of sophistication within and the graphics and care and lots of stuff put into the game. Um, with a $60 game and like you're going to get me 45 shards of something come on and like not even enough to unlock your character. Like if it was like $50 to take a care character all the way to like seven star. Yeah, that'd be,

Speaker 3: 00:51:14 it's a ghost writer came out when it was like you can get, I think it's a minimum of 111 shards all the way up to you might get eight jackpots and instantly seven I'm, but you won't because it's half a percent or something crazy.

Speaker 2: 00:51:26 Yeah, I stopped. I stopped buying character sharks because, because of that cause like I can't, like it's a gambling things like I'm not, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 3: 00:51:34 That's not the second 5,000 that's like my dinner every day for a week or three cycles. Right. But I can get some from freedom.

Speaker 2: 00:51:42 Yeah. So I understand why you do the a, why you do the free to play for the most part because like honestly you can do it as long as you have patience really you can unlock everything. So I wouldn't,

Speaker 3: 00:51:53 well, like I said, I've, I've only spent on the one 99 deals. I've basically all of them apart form, which, because I've read seven, sorry. Yes. I've bought a couple of gold deals. I was super lucky actually a couple of off of the back of one of my last guides, a couple of folks donated some cash to me that's final goals to help me like level up in visible woman and stuff so they could get to the point where I could actually write a decent guide about it. Um, so other than that I really haven't spent on the game. I bought a really couple of really small deals and I'm still 3.2 million TCB.

Speaker 2: 00:52:23 That's not bad. I met just under, I think it meant like 3.8 3.9 something like that. But like I've, I've, I'm at 3.8. Yeah. I've, um, I've just, yeah, just doing resource management at this point. So

Speaker 3: 00:52:35 yeah, ma'am. I'm only a 460 days as well. So you've got a headstart for half on me though. So

Speaker 2: 00:52:40 that's true. So just, just goes to show that like you don't have to spend a ton of money on this if you don't really want to. And that's what the great thing about, um, this thing is like your, your most valuable resources, your time and patience. So there you go and go and go. So, uh, we, our next segment is talking about red stars and what red stars we've pulled this week with the Elsa campaign coming out and having the 10% increase, uh, for Elsa. I think Ghostrider was [inaudible]

Speaker 3: 00:53:07 we could go or two weeks ago, tried it before and then it was, did they do a, they did half of brotherhood. They did mystique tooth on.

Speaker 2: 00:53:17 Yeah, I believe. I believe so. Um, I didn't, I, so I'm a hoarder. Like I'm a type of person that like, I'll save red stars. Like when a character comes, um, comes out and you know, have increased chance to one on. So I saved probably about 20 red star basics to open. I only got Elsa, the three red stars. I got ghost writer to three red stars. So, and they're both sitting at three stars for me currently, so that's where they'll go, which kind of bums me out because when you know, when the red star or blitz comes out, I can't really use them in there. So I have to sub out people when that comes around. But there'll be good for my premium, our bullets. So that'd be good. How about, how was your pools?

Speaker 3: 00:53:54 I do exactly the same thing. I stockpile until a board comes out. Um, so I go way back. I've been doing this since before it was a woman, so I, I look out and go forward. Style was ball and from, from stockpile for her, I opened 90 red star orbs and gotten none. Oh my God, that's horrible. I go, I got her on my 20th, which was pretty good, but I opened 50 for calls and didn't even get him at one red style. Oh man. I bought all my red stars for invisible woman. So I bought multiple Colson. I'm at, I'm at three red stars for Colson off of buying them because I didn't, I got one red star for ghost rider, which was soak and I bought I think one mall. Um, and I got, luckily I only have nine left for Elsa when all in, um, my first three OBS when one red star to red star Elsa full red star LC RA. I'm done.

Speaker 2: 00:54:50 Yeah. I just, I do the same. As soon as I got four red stars, I stopped. And that's what I'm, I'll, I'll say for the restaurant cause really that's like four red stars is like the baseline of where you want your characters to be.

Speaker 3: 00:54:59 That's like what, 20%? I think so. Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2: 00:55:04 Uh, I don't remember off the top of my head. So, um, yeah. So you got a, you ended up with a two red star ghostwriter and a four red star, Elsa. That's not bad. I mean

Speaker 3: 00:55:13 not complete. I'm pleased. Also, I'm less happy when goes to live with the situation and goals around it. But my mystic team is pretty well-stocked anyway cause I've got like a five red star model, a four red star, strange on a full red star scholar, which [inaudible] pretty strong.

Speaker 2: 00:55:28 Yeah. I think I'm uh, I'll get to cue it up real quick, but it was like the, uh, I have a five red star, dr strange, but I have done nothing with dr strange and I think he's still sitting at like level 31 70 K. yeah. So he's, uh, so I have a four red star, a Scarlet, which uh, no, I'm sorry, four star, dr. Strange and it three years or more to us. I was like, it, they're there. They're okay. They're not great. But like I think I'm going to start, once my defenses are done with which we'll get to in the next segment of the war. Uh, results for, or I think I'm going to start just working on supernatural a little bit just because I'm starting to run out of teams to attack with in war. I don't know if you are feeling the same cause we upped our requirements for war to 10 attacks in two boosts.

Speaker 2: 00:56:13 Now we used to be a a nine attacks and one booze, now it's 10 and 10 and two. So I'm starting to run out of teams because once I blow my load with all like, cause I was like seven really good attack teams. I have a, you know, 250 K fantastic four. I have um, a bunch of other like war attack teams. I can't remember off the top of my head but it's just like once those are gone, like I can't do anything like, cause they're all medic teams at that point, at the defensive late game. So like I can, you know, take off of buff or let people use their alts. And like somebody else can clean it up or something.

Speaker 3: 00:56:49 Well we'd go for water fence for at war offense for Rose. We've recently moved towards having a higher offerance and kind of not so much scrapping defense completely, but certainly ramping down on it because we pulled off our first couple of full clears in the last farmer. Oh nice. So we'd never done that before. And then we just managed to hit a point where we were, everything just clicked and everyone was available and, and we managed a couple of full cleaners so we kind of looked at it a bit more when, okay, we can do this, we can, we can work around this. And uh, we changed our defense. All the bits are, we're kind of protecting hanger and armory a lot more, uh, and sacrificing stuff like bridge and reactor because we are finding ourselves to win a war. We have to put out like 15 plus 5,000 points plus every single war. So we just needed more offense. But I've got a car, very, very reliable players. I'm not at walling dizzy. So I've got a call I can lean on that I know can put out eight, 200 care plus 200, 250 K attacks. Yeah. I'm sorry if I made them liquidate that defense just put everything in orphans.

Speaker 2: 00:57:59 Yeah. We used to try something like that and then we had somebody come in and help us, help us out for our war tax and everything like that and just, you know, give us a fresh with everything. And uh, so that's actually interesting because he's about to leave our aligns, he's going to a different Alliance and so now it's going to fall to me really in the, in our leader, cause I'm one of the captains in our, in our Alliance to really kind of myself and my, uh, my elite, my Alliance leader will sit down and think about all these, you know, what we can do. So I like the idea of like sacrificing a bridge and reactor and kind of just putting it into, into like the, the more high value targets of like barracks and armory and maybe security or something like that. And S and C or med Bay for that

Speaker 3: 00:58:39 target high is more, more reliable and more useful than people give it credit for. I'll give you that. Things like having that incident deflect on for example, is allows teams like power armor to punch up much higher against and think about that. Um, so because with the advent Colson, we've had to switch everyone who was using Phoenix's, they were always assigned for killing Ultron teams on defense. But now you have to use your phoenixes for Colson's. Um, so you need to have those tools available to kill from defense teams and power armor can punch off so well against Ultron and that it early to flat is enough to stop all tunnels from deleting accidentally deleting Falcon or rescue.

Speaker 2: 00:59:27 Okay. That's good to know. I hadn't thought about that.

Speaker 3: 00:59:31 That deflect is, it's incredible. It's because all of you, we'll try and acknowledge defense anyway with results because full pacing, it doesn't ignore the flag. So if your hangers gone your power arm or lose a punch lose about 20, 30 K worth of punch up against Voltron.

Speaker 2: 00:59:47 Yeah. Okay. Interesting. I'm just looking at our teams now and so I mean for facing anyone in our war, which is coming up in like a and a little bit, uh, we actually have some decent teams in hangar and actually might switch out a couple of people for some stuff. Just seemed like, uh, some old Tron teams. Uh Oh it was like one guy who's has a 330 K or 323 K a Colson team with his uh, in there. So. Nice. Nice stop. You're, you're, you're doing, you're doing the Lord's work there.

Speaker 3: 01:00:16 I'm super sad because I'm about to sacrifice, you know when I, when I get a bit more gold and I, my Colson is finished, he's close, but I've run out of golden, I mean about 2 million more golden and I can get him to level seven and then we'll be fine. Um,

Speaker 2: 01:00:27 71 is where you want them for this or is this not focused?

Speaker 3: 01:00:30 I can't afford it.

Speaker 2: 01:00:32 I do. I just talk. I just hit 74 yesterday and it costs me 400 K to take on from 73 to 74 is insane. I just, it's so much money.

Speaker 3: 01:00:42 Crazy. Um, but I'm, I'm so sad because I'm going to be sacrificing my shield team on a defense for that because you can't know if you, you have to figure out how to defend students because they're almost unbreakable and less people are Phoenix and mine. I'll be pushing about three 2330 from, I did my shield team on defense as well. So

Speaker 2: 01:01:01 yeah, that's nice. Mine. Mine's not that high. I think mines are like two 70, something like that. So, but still getting there, but uh, and going with that, uh, and, and I guess that was kind of like what we were talking about with war. There's just, you know, we kinda have a segment, we're talking about just war results, how we do, but I kinda liked the changing and stuff to do more war theory crafting. I kinda liked that cause it just gives, it adds like another level to the, uh, the thought process to as opposed to just talking about instead of [inaudible] bragging of like, Oh, Hey, we won this week, we lost this week, blah, blah, blah, whatever. So that was good.

Speaker 3: 01:01:31 It doesn't help because I like to talk as well. I'm, you've read my guides, they're not sure

Speaker 2: 01:01:38 while we had you on here. Yeah. Uh, but so what do you think of, Oh, do you have any team advice since you write the guide? So I just tell people to go read your guides and that'll be it.

Speaker 3: 01:01:48 Uh, well, you know what, actually I'm, I'm now I'm at this weird point where after publishing the guides, I don't know what to do when the event comes back around. Like we just had Mark knee, Oregon recently. Um, I was like, do I just republish my McNeil guide? Do I expect people to search for it? I expect people to tell the people that exists.

Speaker 2: 01:02:08 That's a good, that's a good, that's a problem. And like, I mean, it's a good problem to have I suppose. But yeah, I would say like I would say like, Hey, if you're, I think re-publishing is a good thing, especially since you know, they're coming back around more frequently, which actually I think is a good thing that you know like Hey, like if you missed it last time, here's the link to the last post. But here's, you know, our rehashing of everything like that so that, cause you know P I, I maybe it's just my thought process but I find that like people are lazy and like they don't want to search for stuff. They want to see what's on the front page and that's about it.

Speaker 3: 01:02:37 Well that's why the, I published the, the original fury guide because I was seeing 30 posts in an hour asking the same three questions. Yeah. Like what order do I put them in on the, on the team, what, what do it fall, you know, it was very, very similar questions every single time. And I was like, well I can, I can give you my fury guide and put it out there. Yeah, I certainly would like to clean it up. Especially, because obviously with like em coming out brotherhood, that's just a team that probably can't beat any more. For example, for McKinney, I'm with calls and common out, you can't attack shield if Colton's involved anymore. So, and this, I've learned so much more in the, so much changing in the mat and I feel like maybe I could add to these guides and stuff, but it just takes so long to write.

Speaker 2: 01:03:23 It does. Yeah. And so I'll, I'll, I'll give you one that you can work on, cause I've, I've had a lot of success with this team against aim cause I've been trying to figure out a good way to beat aim. Uh, brawlers is a great combatant against aim because of the burstability. So you want to target shields, uh, scientists Supreme first, but like I can punch up pretty significantly. I think I can do like a 40 or 50 K punch up with my brawlers team, which is currently at 220 K before buffs. So I'd like to, to 40 with buffs, um, ish and, uh, I've, I've had good, good results of beating 300 K teams with my brothers.

Speaker 3: 01:03:59 So, yeah. Are they brothers are, especially if you've got a good captain Marvel. Um,

Speaker 2: 01:04:04 well I am, I got Marvel on defense, so, so, but I, I use, um, my brother's team is surprisingly is um, just to kind of give an idea of what, what they look like. It doesn't seem like it would work, but like it's kinda the constant defense down is what helps 'em because you can, you can burst through the defense down before they flip the buffs, which is what you want. So for me, my brother's team is, uh, ms Marvel, Spiderman, dead America, Chavez and miles. So, and then you can obviously switch up miles if you have 'em someone else. But I know the American Chavez in Spiderman is, is good because you aspirant, does it turn one defense down obviously. Um, and then after the defense down is as gone, uh, America Chavez is, um, basic is the defense down.

Speaker 3: 01:04:49 American Chavez is, is such a under appreciated character. And I think it's because it took them so long to move her from on. Farmable a farmable, but a lot of people have slept on it. But actually if you put a lot of development where she's surprisingly good.

Speaker 2: 01:05:03 Yeah, I think I have her, she's at four stars, four red stars, tier 11, 37 K for me. Uh, I mean I, I have, I have the, the amount, I can take her to six stars right now, but I just haven't had, because I'll be things going into is to shield. So, but yeah, so there's one for you. You can do a brawlers team next to see you.

Speaker 3: 01:05:21 I have, I've actually had some people ask about captain Marvel, so I was going to touch brawlers when I did her. [inaudible] um, but cause obviously she, she's a weird one way. You can just kind of throw it anywhere and she'll do well. Yeah, I think,

Speaker 2: 01:05:34 yeah, I punch up a lot with, uh, with captain Marvel and brawlers a while, but not like a, I didn't have a space for her cause I switched up my teams based, you know, switching around spider verse and everything like that. So I was like, you know what, I just throw her with an ultra on team because why not

Speaker 3: 01:05:48 just make it harder to appeal on it.

Speaker 2: 01:05:50 Yeah, exactly. That's, that's

Speaker 3: 01:05:52 we've moved towards all Trump teams on defense with, uh, things like dr [inaudible] before Supercycle came out, dr strange hand century all Tron. Uh, what was your, the tubes? I think it was crossbones. Um, shield trooper. Okay. Because she'll trip it needs a home now because obviously you're stealing him away from shields to replace recalls and that is getting us from defense ones.

Speaker 2: 01:06:18 All right, that's interesting. You know, I think I have my, our defense for that is same thing. It's, uh, it's, we, I think we have Drax mantis Ultron, uh, uh, one high defend or one high attacker, which for me is Carnegie right now. And then also, um, hand century. So

Speaker 3: 01:06:35 yeah, my mail actually in the monies, the man is comp as well, but he's got a seven Redstone moneys, which is cheating.

Speaker 2: 01:06:40 Yeah, that's cheating. You can't win it. You can't win at that point. I mean that's what I mean. That's really what you want at that point is to have that for a preventive one. So,

Speaker 3: 01:06:48 but I, it interests me that you were talking about like the Metro and stuff and how am I coming in on defense because it's, you've, we've recently seen every, the start of the lives war, everyone had defenders on defense because they're one of those teams that the AI plays very well. It's hard to play defenders badly. But now, now he's seeing so many defensive ends. I'm telling everyone to move their defenders onto offers.

Speaker 2: 01:07:11 Yeah. So that's the, that's yeah, exactly. Cause that's, that's the, yeah, that's the one hard counter right now. But it's just like what do you, what do you do, do you have like do you make somebody spend their high, their one of their heart, uh, they're higher teams to clear your, you know, 400 K defenders or do they, do you save it for your 250 K aim team that you're gonna come across? So it's tough. It's one of those like testing things, but that's what we love about this game. So just figuring this stuff out. So final thing that we have today is our favorite character since we've switched this up to kind of just ask our guests what their favorite character is. Cause we've talked at length about our favorite characters already. It's just, well Dom's not here anymore, so it's just me. A metal. What is your favorite character in the game right now?

Speaker 3: 01:07:54 Oh, is it such a tough one? Cause it depends on like what game, what I'm playing and I again, I love playing the comics, reading the comics. I love so many characters and so many, uh, seeing them just on the field. But Colossus has to be one of my favorite characters in camera now because I feel like they got him right. He's just this big chunky Akil beast of a dude and he's really easier in a really good spot. Like Mattawa is thinking about a team of Phoenix and their environment.

Speaker 2: 01:08:25 Yeah. Looking at it, they are a nightmare. So, but that's uh, awesome man. Well thanks so much for coming on the podcast and, and, and stopping by and chatting with us for sure. And uh, [inaudible] wow. It's all good. It's fine. It's, it's mainly just me talking anyway, so it's, it's more, it's more of the same for what we normally do. But uh, yeah, so you can find full metal streaming on Twitch at twitch.tv/full metal cos I'll put a link in the description below. You can find his, his guides on Reddit with the same Reddit username raffle, metal deck, a will metal cos I think on Reddit.

Speaker 2: 01:09:02 Like I said, I have, my league has a podcast as well called the rebel Alliance. Awesome pod is on Spotify, iTunes and stuff. It's R E V V L Alliance. Awesome. Well, yeah, send us a link to that or send me a link on discord and I will include it as also, so you can also check that podcast out if you want to hear more stuff, if you want to. I not show for like two hours a week. Yeah, that's great. And really be fantastic. So, uh, anyway, uh, you guys can all find us normally where we get this all stuff and I don't know where I was going with that, but anyway. Ah, you can find us on Instagram at O G. dot. Podcast. Twitter is overachievers P our website is being over cheever.com where you can get this episode and every other episode where they all are. You know how it is at this point. It's fine. And we have a patron that we sort of do, but don't really at patrion.com/overachievers and let's say that's all I got.

Speaker 5: 01:09:56 [inaudible].

Well thank you. I feel lovely. Good. You look a little lovely. Thank you so much above the stash.

The stash is doing well for you right now. So yeah. Oh, there it is. Okay, here we go. You can find us on instagram@ojidotpodcasttwitteratoverachieversprwebsiteisbeingoverachiever.com where you can get this episode and every episode where we talk about male fashion advice, coffee, what it's like to live in Brooklyn. Uh, and, but most importantly video games is what we talk about for the most part. Um, every now and then we talk about video games. That's right. Yes. Um, anyway, uh, yeah, so you can check us out on there. Uh, we also do a, if you're new to this podcast, we also do a segment called the Marvel strike force insider, which we do every other week as well as this normally scheduled podcast in which we talking about the game Marvel strike force, which you can play on mobile. We love it. We hate it. We complain about it quite a bit. We mostly love it. Mostly let's say it's like a 60, 40.

Yeah, that's, that's a solid solid ratio.

But uh, yeah. So this time we're going to be talking about just video games in general in which what we have coming out this week's topics will be red dead redemption two coming to PC. Modern warfare has resurfaced. I picked it up and then uh, Dom you have some stuff going on too with like watch Battlestar Galactica.

Yeah, really, really random. Uh, I'll just get into the, should I just get into this real quick? What, how, how was he, what happened? I thought I told you about it. So that was last week or week before that I had to go to Montana for the week for a travel job for a shoot. And um, I was just like, man, what am I going to do? I'm in the middle of nowhere, Montana. I brought my switch and I saw in the store there was a sale for Battlestar Galactica deadlock for 30 bucks. I've heard about this game before. It's a, a, a turn-based realtime strategy involved in the universe of Battlestar Galactica, which I don't know if you watch any of Battlestar Galactica. I couldn't get into it. I tried. Oh, I remember actually when we lived together, you, you and Amanda were trying to watch it and had a really bad day for nights scene and you're like, I'm done.

Is that, and plus like, I know it's like, it's a little dated at this point, so it's limited. It's just, it, just, the dialogs just, that's fine. It's terrible. It's one of them. It's still one of my favorite shows, fracking, Johns where you're right, toasters and yeah, I still love the show. It's still, it's, there's something about it that holds a special place in my heart being over my friend James's place. Like every day in the summer, we would stay up until like 5:00 AM watching Beltsville Galactica, just, you know, this all do love it. But the, the, the ridiculous thing about Battlestar Galactica is that, uh, in the space fights, they have a lot of weird snap zooms and all this like really weird cinematics, right? So in Battlestar Galactica deadlock, after you've won a mission, you had the option to replay the mission or, um, uh, watch the mission and they, they will replay it in the cinematic style of the show.

So like, alright, it's, I'm going to S I'm going to stream it after this. I really want to stream it. I'm so curious. I mean, I don't care if I'm watching it or not, I just want to, I just want it to be shown. But like, you'll, you'll do the mission. And so like, you know, you could have like, the mission might require you to fight like, you know, a couple of frigates, a capital ship, whatever. Right? And it's all turn-based so it's like fairly strategic. It's like pretty, pretty difficult. I had to restart my campaign cause I realized how bad I was doing at first and now I've got the hang of it. But then you'll win and if you killed all the ships and you only lost one, it'll be like, like it has the music, it has like close up of like the ships and it will do all the ridiculous like snap zooms and like ah, it's honestly I'm loving it because I already liked real time strategies anyway.

Like that's what I would say got me into gaming really. But I didn't think I would like a based real time strategy but it really does add to, can I answer the strategy? Because you have to guess where your opponent's going. It's not like if you're playing StarCraft, if you just like bring a drone over to like your enemies space, you could see everything. You know what's happening. Like you could, you get placed observation points around the map and if they roll up on you, you know what's happening. But in this, it's almost like a big square grid and you know, you like forgets can move further and faster. Um, uh, bigger, bigger ships go slower and battle stars go even slower. So you have to like really position stuff in a way that hopefully if I move my battle started this spot, hopefully it'll even make a difference because if, if their frigates go wide around, it's irrelevant.

You know what I mean? Um, you got to like make decisions on like, am I going to fire torpedoes that have no guidance, they just go to straight line or am I gonna use guided missiles that do, that are guided but like they are not as powerful. You know what I mean? So it's almost like crazy. It's probably the most strategic RDS I've ever played. Cause like when I play this [inaudible], excuse me, I have to think more. With StarCraft, I just fall into the rhythm of the game I've been playing since I was like 10. You know what I mean? I just, you started getting minerals. You, you make some dirt, wings, whatever. You rush, you don't rush, doesn't matter. But with this game you really have to think. And it's like, like I said, I had to stop, I had to re I had to scrap the game.

I had to like restart from the beginning cause once I understood how to play, I was too far gone. I only had one ship and no money to make any more ships, so I was done. You know what I mean? Cause it costs money. It's like, it costs Tillium to make no shit, real world money, that kind of shit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Uh, no, none of that garbage. Um, it's a resource called Tillium and you get it just by like winning missions and ending turns, stuff like that. And I had, I had one really bad frigate left and I, I was in a campaign mission where I had to fight like 10 ships. I just couldn't do it. You know what I mean? It was, it was bad. Uh, so I scrapped the game. I restarted and not so much better. I have like, I'm doing much better, but it's difficult, man. It's really difficult and it's fun to have that again, like a a game where you're like, Oh man, this is hard. And like, it makes you think you're not just like shooting aimlessly or just like, yeah, I love it. Um, I'm really into it.

They worked out, I brought in the plane. I would play. I started playing on the plane and playing it. Like, am I actually a fun fact? Had to leave at like 4:00 AM on that Monday to get to for this flight. We had like a 6:00 AM flight. It was terrible. Um, and I realized when I got to the airport, I forgot my switch. Oh God, no. I almost did. I almost did. I almost bought a switch light, but I was like, I'm not spending $200 on this right now. I don't need it. I had this switch. I had Mallory, uh, overnight view. I switched to Montana. Goodness. Hey, it was 50 bucks. So either pay 50 bucks and have it overnighted. Oregon spent 200 bucks on an on a thing I already own. You know what I mean? It worked out. You did the right thing?

I think so. I think so. I missed it on the flight there but like whatever. I had some comics I read but it was, it's because this game's already existed. It's been out since 2017 but they just poured it to the switch. Um, and it's a good port. I actually, I kind of want to buy it on my computer cause I feel like it'll be so much smoother with a mouse and keyboard, which I mean, you know, a lot of things are aren't they? But um, it's great. I bring on the subway. I just like playing on the subway now on my way to work and stuff. Like you know, it's like I just, and it's funny cause like you see people in the subway playing like either like street fighter or like dragon ball dragon mostly, whatever the new one is. And you're always like, Oh man, what's up my switch? I fight them right now. But no one's ever going to be like, Hey, you would have challenged Battlestar Galactica. You're like, I'm going to get smoked. I dunno. That sounds, sounds interesting. I don't know. It's dope. I like RTSs and I'm just curious about what that would be like for me. I don't know. So maybe if there's ever another sale again on trial, try it out. Yeah, I mean it's 30 right now. I'm sure. Like in like maybe like I would say probably listen to your, it'd be even cheaper. Like no one's going to be buying this game. It's already a two year old game seem to be three.

Oh, okay. Well there you go. Um, I like, I like difficult things, but as, as always, there's too many games. I already don't have enough time to do what I want to do, so I don't know. Maybe I'll it, I'll give it a go, you know, cause there's, there's definitely been some days where I have not been working as much as I'd like to be camera, so maybe I'll just bring it [inaudible] switching me. I don't like, I don't like to do that if I can avoid it. But yes, that might be the goal in what, you know, I'll do something and you know, at least do tabletop mode. That'd be fun. Yeah. What else you've been playing or are looking forward to? I know my, uh, I know you talked briefly about, at least in our text message, Shane, about, um, Pokemon Soren shield coming out soon.

Yeah. And I haven't made a decision yet on which, when I'm down pre-ordering I'm going, I'm definitely pre-ordering. Yeah. I think it just depends. They haven't released, I mean maybe they have since like a week or so ago. Uh, they haven't released which exclusives Pokemon are on each, uh, one, which they always do. Like, you know, some will have this, some will not have the IRT, someone will have this and then you trade your friends shit like that. I just want to see what has, what to determine. Like what's the one I go for? Um, like for instance when they did like, you know, let's go pick a shoe and let's go Eve, let's go pick at you had a soother and let's go. Evie had, um, like whatever. You know what I mean? So, uh, I came in for that. It's also, no one's really talking about it because the switch is a handheld system, but this is the first Pokemon that's on a a console and it's like it's the first Pokemon that's being put on a console and like yeah, granted you can take the switch with you.

It can be portable, but it's still like it is still a desktop console. So like, I don't know. I think that's really cool and I think that's like not really being talked about as much and I've been asking for this since I was a kid. I mean like when I first put my Pokemon Mike my game cartridge into my in 64 controller for Pokemon stadium, that will be the biggest deal for me. It was so cool. I forgot about that game. Oh my God. If they, if they redid poke on my stadium, I would die. I would die that if any, they should do that now that this, this Pokemon will be on a console like they should put them. I say them was quite frankly, I think one of the best incidents for games that ever came out, they did so good with in Capitola like making this like a stadium effect deal.

Like you have like the announcer, like, you know what I mean? Like it was all just so good. It was the best. Um, but yeah, I'll most likely go for shield only because I assume everyone will get soared, so I'll have plenty of people to trade with. You know what I mean? Like I feel like soar just sounds more exciting. Like no one wants to be a shield or wants to be a sword. I don't know. We'll see. Some of my classmates are getting it, so I'm going to wait to see what they do so that we actually guarantee you have people to trade with. Uh, I'm really excited though. I just can't talk enough that it's like this is exciting and this is the, I think this is what the switch was made for, was to do different things and stuff. And, I mean it's already done that it's a portable desktop console, you know, but I'm really excited for that. I'm also, I know it's out already. Uh, and I, I actually, my plan was to get a Link's awakening for the switch, but then I saw that $30 $30 sale on Battlestar, so I got that instead. Uh, but I think since I've had my like switch rejuvenation in the last like week or so, uh, I'll probably next paycheck get, um, Link's awakening.

Yeah. I wanted to try that. I loved the original ones for SNES, but I don't know what the, um, I don't know what they are, how that is,

it's a little buggy right now. People are saying that the game is surprised buggy. But like the title usually doesn't do that. They usually don't have very buggy games. I don't know what, yeah, I don't know what to think. They're like why they would release a game that has buzzy and especially a Zelda port or a title. Um, yeah cause it's, no matter what the game is, no matter what the size of the game is all the, it's like a flagship title from them, you know, like uh, I don't know. Hopefully hopefully it won't be the case. Like you know, it's been out now for like a month I think or so. Right.

I think, I think so. Maybe longer than that. I think it's been maybe like two months maybe. Something like that. Hopefully. I mean, you know, patch. Yeah. I like the art style for it. I thought it was pretty interesting and cool doesn't it? It does look cool and I've been wanting to try it but like you know, I've, I still have ultimate Alliance three that's sitting in my switch. I haven't touched my switch in like a month and a half at this point. So I really should just take it with me and play and do more with it and just to keep going. It gets me off the stark force all the time. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. You don't get y'all straight for us, right? Yeah. Cause I that, I mean we talked about that in our normal podcast or not normal. This is normal podcast we we're talking about that are other podcasts like Strikeforce is kinda like starting, uh, starting to get me a little, like, it feels too much like work and not like fun and that

I think that is easily one of the biggest problems of that game is that it, um, it just requires a lot, right?

Yeah. Just repeat it. If you want to stay competitive, yes, they requires a lot. But like, I don't know, being gonna miss smaller Alliance with it, I don't have to care as much. I kind of want to be in a smaller Alliance to her to completely, you know, maybe we'll talk about this more next weekend, but yeah, I kind of wished that like I wasn't so competitive with it. Yeah, totally. I mean, which is fine cause like I still hit my, my minimums. I still hit my rates, I still hit all this other stuff, but like, you know, just, I don't know.

I mean my rooms are a lot smaller. That's why I'm chill with it. Yeah. You know? Um, but yeah, man, I dunno. I think that the switch is like the perfect thing for like, I just always had my bag. It's just always in my bag. If you ever want to Rob me, you're going to get a switch so you're never just like grabbed my bag when I'm not looking. There you go. You've got to switch out of it. And probably a sneaky jujitsu G you don't, you might not want that though, versus sweaty as shit. Oh, it's so disgusting. Um, but that's why I love the switch, man. It's like guaranteed good games on it. Bring it with you anywhere. You know what I mean? Like [inaudible].

Alright, that sounds, uh,

alright.

Sounds pretty rad. Yeah. I'll give it a go with the a maybe poke monster and she'll come on. So maybe whatever you get,

I'll get the opposite, right. Yeah, there you go. That'll work. That trades straight up. I haven't played a Pokemon since the red and blue. Yeah. Well, it's a lot different now, obviously. Um, I actually, it's, I'm actually, uh, we brought that, I remembered, uh, I've been having like a Houston ostalgie cake lately and I wanted it to play the original Pokemons and I found this like emulate like a handheld emulator. Uh, I think it was called like the X N G or something like that. It's like some Chinese one, it looks like, uh, the old, uh, Nintendo DS like the next iteration of game boy. But it has like, dude, it has like PSP games and 64 Pokemon or um, a Nintendo game boys through and they tend to DS. It has all those games emulated on it and it's like 200 bucks. I'm like, mind you, that's another switch, but it has full capability of emulating and 64 PlayStation one PSP, all of the game boys. Uh, I think I might just get it cause I really want to play the old Pokemon. I'm like,

when do you have time to do that? And also, are you going to play it for like 10 minutes? And that's an aha. That's true.

I got 40 minutes every day. That's true. Yeah. That's 40 minutes every day to play games. Well, I'm sorry, that's 80 minutes cause it's there and back. Yeah.

What's, there's more games that I could play. I wish I could play like PlayStation four games mobile.

Okay, well isn't there like that thing that's not very good. It's not good. The veto you're talking about. No, that's a neat, aren't they? Can't you like play games mobily or something? Then you say there's that feature for PlayStation.

I mean there's the, um, you can do the remote play, but you still need internet connection. Yeah, fair, fair, fair. Yeah. I just meant like, you know, be able to take something with you. I mean, why don't you, I guess is the whole point of this switch. So, Hey, look at that. Hey. Okay. Yeah, indeed. Um, so one thing I'll talk about things that are coming out. I know I kind of jumped the gun a little bit with talking about sword and shield, but I wanted to talk about something that's been recently come out that I'm actually very excited for and had been playing a little bit. Uh, yesterday. I only got maybe a couple of hours into it. Was that the new call of duty modern warfare is out came out Friday. It kind of did like I wasn't planning on buying it whatsoever. I was just kinda like letting it pass by.

But then I was reading reviews of people saying that they love the campaign, that it's dark and gritty and I really enjoyed the modern warfare campaigns or just the regular college duty campaigns and like, you know, ever since black ops and just did a way with the campaign, I was like, Ugh, whatever. I'm not not going to buy one. But then just seeing everybody say how much they really enjoyed the campaign, I was like, you know what? All right, I'll give it a go. I'll, I will take my 50 character sharps or Marvel Strikeforce and not buy that. And I'll go into call of duty and I'll give it a go. And you know, cause I enjoyed the multiplayer a little bit. I'm not really much of a call of duty multiplayer guy, but I enjoy some aspect of it. So I'll give it a go.

So I loaded up my body yesterday, I just bought the base package, it's like 60 bucks, whatever. And I said, you know, okay, I'll play it, blah blah blah. And I have to say, man, the campaign is dark and gritty and it makes me, now that I've worked on, um, FBI for the past three or four months. Yeah. Like there's a, there's a section where you're clearing a house and like you're tight quarters. Yeah. And it's like, it's just straight up like, okay, you're breaching clear, breaching clear, breaching Clair for like three floors of the house and it, dude, it's like, it's hard not playing on the hardest difficulty level, but I'm playing on enough, a veteran I think, which is like, there's one more after that. It's like, I forget what it is, but I'm playing on veteran, which is like kinda like, you know, you get shot two, three times.

You're, that's a, that's a, that's the thing. But that's like, that's what I like. I liked playing on that. Yeah. Little realistic. Oh, that's what it was. The hardest. It's called realistic. So call it realistic. It's called realistic. So since you get shot once, twice. That's it. Yeah. That's pretty cool. But, so I've been playing, I've been playing that yesterday I played, uh, I probably, I think I've done like maybe six or seven missions that campaign's not very long. It's like six to eight hours. Sure. But it's like a need for a game like that. Yeah. And I think so, cause it gets you enough to get to care about the characters, to care about what's going on. But like, it's just the, the way the design, the campaign levels and I'm curious to try and multiplayer as well, but the fact that, how they design the campaign levels of just having just pure chaos happening, but it's not just like, you know, go down this hallway.

There's a bunch of bad guys. You go down this hallway as a bunch of bad guys. It's just like, there's one very early on in the game where I, so it's not in too much of a spoiler where it's like LA, like there's a terrorist attack in London and you're like part of the one crew. They're going out, uh, or you know, you're just trying to take you, like, you see the guys go by, you in the car, you're like, shit, shit, shit. That's them. That's them. And like you get out and like you don't get, you don't get the chance to, um, the save the day. So like the terrorist tech goes off and now you have to deal with, you know, what's happening with everything else. And so now you're in this middle of fingers, like you have, like, they're primarily in front of you, but like, they're coming at you from all sides.

You can't tell who's a civilian and who's like a terrorist God. And it's just like, you're, you're just like, if you shoot a civilian, like it's game over. Like it's, they say you can't do it. So like, you have to be very careful with how you shoot. Um, and you have like, just a pistol equip because you weren't, you weren't prepared to, uh, tackle a terrorist attack, that kind of thing. It's just, it just interesting. And how they, they're playing this one. It's not like, uh, you feel powerful. You find kind of feel helpless. Sure. In this situation, which I think is a very interesting perspective from a college UT games cause those, those games kind of glorify war and glorify, you know, how bad ass it is to kind of be a Marine who's doing all this stuff. But it's really, so far it's been very like, I feel terrified.

Sure. Playing is this like you're going into ERC Estann uh, in these situations where you're helping the freedom fighters like help out with their, you know, their revolution and whatnot as a member of the CIA and you're like, you're just kinda like, well, I'm overwhelmed. Like I don't know how to get through this. And like, you're one person against like all these other people and like, you don't win a lot. And the storyline is that sense of, well, you don't really, you're overwhelmed. You don't have like this you have to do like, I mean, there's some stealth stuff into it as well, but I liked the fact that they're, yeah. And I liked that they're pushing this kind of, um, like you, it's not glorious, glorious at all. It's dirty. It's like you're, you're crawling around. Like there's a, there's a section where these guys come around and you're like, you're in like this, uh, this room full of dead bodies and like all of a sudden you have to be prone and, and like pull a dead body over you to survive because yeah, it's intense. It's intense. Like it's, I feel like the modern warfare franchise, if you call it a franchise or whatever, not the call of duty friendships, but I like that those games have always been like, these have had these Oh shit moments and they're just very good in terms of that storytelling just because it feels so real and so current in today's day and age. So I know I was never married U of M

halo three, I was the first three halos when I was younger. I weren't necessarily, I wasn't into them as much. Have you played them? It's really easy to play them with friends. Especially like, I feel like the first halo is first three halos worth like the game that you split screen with your buddy. Like, like that was it, you know. Um, but I was always just like, man, this is too, I feel too much like I've a fricking like a superhero, you know, like it's like, it's almost, it's so it's too much. And then halo three ODS T came out where you played as ODS T which is just like, there were like special honor Enes and you died fast. Your your bullets. Like everything was like not the same. And I was like, Oh man, this feels so much better cause this feels so much more real great.

I'm playing a scifi game in space by the aliens. But like when they did what EST it was like, it was in the same vein. It wasn't like you were just a grunt, you were getting the shit kicked out of you. And I loved, I loved that. And then I did halo reach afterwards where you were a Spartan again, but you were just facing overwhelming odds and you were always losing your whole, your whole team was dying. And I think those two games really made halo so much better. And it's interesting to hear the call, like that call of duty, having that different like a different tone. Cause you're man, like I forgot the one call of duty, but it was like, uh, when the, when the Russians invaded America have modern warfare too. I think that's my word too. And it's just like, what are we going to Russia?

It's like tomorrow son. It's like, Oh my God is also ridiculous. Right. And I'm sure this probably has ridiculous elements, but that's what I was like kind of pushed me away from call of duty. It was just real ridiculous. Right. I feel like it was, you're right, I get over-glorified bore and shit, but it's war game. I felt like on one hand you gotta. Um, but that's actually, that's kind of interesting. I was interested, I'm not going to buy the game just cause like, like first person shooters aren't really like my, my life anymore. You know what I mean? Uh, but like when they showed soap in the trailer, which I assumed that was so, uh, which I'm confused about because I thought that character died forever ago. I don't really remember the story that much. I don't remember it much either. Right. And I was like, Oh, this is kinda interesting. Um, if there was a sale, I'll probably get it just cause I haven't played call of duty in so long.

Yeah. Well that's the thing is like there's not many sales for Activision. Like what's it's called [inaudible] they make so much money all the time. They, they, they rarely go on sale and if they go on sale, it's like three years later. Right. That's the, that's part of the reason why I just like, you know what, I'll just pick it up now because it's not going to go on sale anytime soon. It's going to be 60 bucks. I might as well just pay the $60 now and just enjoy it and talk about it on the podcast research and uh, go from there and see what happens with it. And you know, yeah, I know. It's just, uh, but I just wanna I want to try it out and you know, I'll play it. I'll try it play remotely when I'm, um, you know, when I have time, when I'm in Brooklyn and whatever, I'll play the single player. But uh, yeah, it's just, you know, it's just, I don't know. I, I would recommend like if you have, if you're on the fence about it, if you'd like call of duty for the multiplayer aspect. I mean I haven't tried the multiplayer on this yet, so I don't know what it's like. I mean I tried the like little free weekend that they had. I was like, I'm not really, you know, it's more of the same. Amazing.

It's, and it always will be, but like that's fine. You know, like the first call of duty Marta with the first amount of warfare was like I probably don't work the hours and amount of warfare multiplayer than I did any game ever. Cause I would just be over at my buddy's place like every night and we would just go buck wild on modern warfare multiplayer man.

Yeah. I did the same like cause it's just at that time it was something different and it just, it set the tone for what multiplayer would be and they took the chance on it, you know, with like all the different aspects of the customization with it, which is what I was looking forward to because black ops just kind of didn't really have do that for me. I really enjoyed it. I thought it would, but I actually kind of enjoyed more of the, I think I was one of the few people who actually liked the battle Royale in black ops. So sure. Actually, I don't know if they, if they're doing a battle Royale with a Monome weren't for it, but I would like, I don't know. Um, well I guess one on of the few people that would do it. So. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, it's just, um, yeah, if you're on the fence about it, I say get it.

And if you like the campaigns for call of duty whatsoever, I would say get it because it's different man. Like, I always like battlefield campaigns because I was felt like they were kind of gritty and like more realistic and have that more of a, um, you know, a bigger platoon. Yeah. Uh, gameplay and you kind of feel like you're more of a squad. This feels like you're just in it with like, you're in the shit and it just feels, it feels, I know, I was telling my, I was, my dad's in town and I was, he was watching me play yesterday and he's like, this is giving me, like, this is stressing me out, watching, watching new play this. I'm just like, yeah, I'm fine. How do you think I feel? I'm the one controlling, so for sure. But yeah, I, it's, it's, it's pretty great. So cool. That's good. I was trying to get it better. Be good. Yeah. Better be good for that, for it. But I just, I was pleasantly surprised. I was not expecting to like the story as much as I, as I do, so,

Oh, I'm worthy. I bet. I bet you they probably cared more just because the last, well, the last one didn't have story right?

Correct. Well, the last one was Trey arch and this is infinity ward. I believe so I could be wrong.

Yeah. Oh right, right. That's right. I wish we had different studios that do them. Yeah. I mean that's all that really works. Whenever here infinity ward is the O G one that for my worker, right? Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Yeah.

Shit. Hell yeah. Fun game. Fun to play games, right? Yeah, exactly. So speaking of playing games, uh, for different apps to, uh, well first off there they imported it to the PC. Finally, what you remember when the game first came out there was [inaudible] they're putting a PC to bring a PC soon. Oh, I can't wait in a year later. Here we are. No, you know, I would've bought it. I would've, I would've bought it on PC. I just don't want a PC. I was excited. You know, like I just, I have no, I haven't even played written word redemption to man. I haven't even played it at all. I, I feel like I missed the train on caring about it. You know what I mean?

Yeah. But also I'm what I'm most excited for. So I think I'm going to pick it up, but I don't think I'm gonna pick it up anytime soon. I might wait for like a holiday sale. Sure. Is. Right now it's on sale for 50% off on PlayStation on consoles. So I don't know why. Yeah. But I don't know why I would spend the full, you know, $60 on a game that's been out for a year that I own on console that I haven't finished exactly. But the mainly just because it takes like a hundred hours to fucking finish that game. What? I'm not doing it. Yeah. So I'll, I'll wait for a sale and I'll pick it up mainly because, well actually they're doing two things. Well if you pre-ordered, you get a free copy of grand theft auto, San Andreas, I believe. I'm like old as hell from PSDO.

Yeah, but they've changed it slightly and they like, they redo it. I don't know. Maybe that same Oh grant. That's auto man. Yeah. You get something for free if you preorder it like a, like an older version of a grant. That though, I don't think it's grants granted thought of five. Maybe it might be, I don't remember it either way. So I'm curious about the modding aspect of the red dead redemption. Two currently modding for it. There is a company which is called, um, what do they call themselves? There's was like, um, for uh, for mod I believe is what they called themselves, who modern it was like was the first people to do like these crazy mods for grants. I thought, Oh, now they're doing, um, red ma, uh, red modern I think is what they're interesting. It's called now, or at least a modest called that for grant that or for red dead redemption.

So I, I'm intrigued by the modding aspect. I never really got big into modeling, but I know that's like the biggest draws of plan PC. So mainly because there's a, I mean I'm, I'm giving it a go because there's a, a VR game that I'm very much looking forward to it called sword and sorcery that has a star Wars mod. We play as like with lightsabers and shits. I'm curious about that, but there is, so with that, the modding I think is going to be very interesting. So I have probably, we'll wait until that has been out for a bit and then play it on my beefy computer, which I use for editing and everything. But I don't really use for gaming but I don't know, I'm just gonna wait, I'm gonna wait til it's like on a sale. 20 bucks. Maybe I'll pick it up cause I still have to finish it and like I don't want to like read, play the campaign of the same shit that I've already done when I haven't even finished the game.

And I know someday cross saving will exist on everything. Yeah, that'd be great. I mean if the cross save and I just like load up, you know, save my shit to the cloud or like import my PS for save across and bringing in like I think I saw like I played, um, I played the campaign, I got like maybe like 60 hours into it or something like that. And then they, sure. And then I got busy cause you know, too many games, real life, all that shit. And then they came out with red dead online and I tried that for like maybe 10, 15 hours and I was like, uh, okay. I just don't care about this enough. Now online time riding around in a horse and I can't fast travel. It's like I don't really use it, but no thing that to me, I'm curious to see.

I think it'd be visually amazing with what the way computers can push everything. I think it's probably going to be one of the most totally visually telling games on PC to be completely honest. So might be a good game to stream on PC with moms. I think so. I mean you look at when we had BK on, you know, he was, he was playing RP server with grants. I've thought of five. Imagine doing an RP with uh, you know, red dead redemption. That'd be awesome. Absolutely. It's like you're a pig farmer. Exactly. I'll be a pig farmer selling some bacon. Oh yeah. Bring her some big again or not bringing, getting rid of the bacon. And I guess bring home the bacon, the option to bring in the big end. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. So you know, with that release and that, I think that's, um, when does that come out? Comes out soon, right? I think it's next month, November that they come out with that game. I had it queued up on my web browser and I can't find it at the moment, so I don't know where is specifically, Oh, here we go. It is coming out.

Doesn't say

November 27th. Yes. Nope. That's, hold on. That's, I'm looking at the timeline for it. Last year, so that was November 27th is when it came out.

Um,

for red dead redemption. The beta for the thing. But uh, I don't know where it says, it says, I dunno, it's coming out in November sometime. I think it's towards the end of November, but we'll see what happens when it comes out.

Yeah.

Apparently there's a big, some big content that dropped last month, but I don't really care about.

Yeah. But,

but it will be available on the rock stars, new game launcher as well as on the Epic game store. Oh yeah. And then if you want to buy it on steam, which you probably will be able to, it will come out in a month later. So

womp womp. But yeah,

it's a, it's unfortunate is when that comes out. So it comes, let's see, man, it's slow. They're still pushing it full like $80. If you want the ultimate edition for everything right now. But Jesus man, yeah, for PC. But it's going to be, it's going to be insane I think, but I don't see where it says where it's comes out. You can select a free game. You can check a, let's see. What does it say when it comes out? I don't know.

I'm looking for right now. This is funny cause at this point I would've given up. That's the problem I have with stuff like this. It's, if I don't have the insert, I mean why isn't the answer immediately there? You know what I mean?

Yeah. Well they, they, they announced it and I'm just trying to see what it said. Um, said, why don't I just people just put it in their headline, like literally just still get the click seriously.

Oh boy.

November 5th. Thank you. Finally. Thank you. PC gamer for actually putting it in your headline. Oh my God. What a nightmare. Trying to fucking find that. That's hilarious. Anyways, so, uh, yeah, so those are the two big announcements of games that are coming out in this, uh, next month I would say between, you know, for a dip redemption to come to PC and then also has Pokemon short sword and shield. Uh, there's a couple of other games that are coming out also, which I'm also looking forward to. Which one is with Jedi fallen order. Oh yeah. She's off on the 15th, which I have pre-ordered. I'm very excited for it, but that was also like, you know, I, I'm still playing through borderlands three. I'm almost done. The cam, the, the storyline on that. So I was like, do I really want to play call of duty? And I was like, yeah, that's probably six, eight hours. Yes,

exactly. Exactly. The campaign. So short multiplayer can be whenever you want it to be, if you want to play it or not, you know, I'll probably still play it and I'll probably get my trophies for it. But exactly. You got when you gotta you gotta get your trophies.

Yeah. But man, I have to say that I'm looking forward to playing Jeff fallen odor. A lot of people who've gotten some hands on experience cause there was like an event last month or this month earlier, a couple of weeks ago maybe where they added, they asked some like, you know, uh, reviewers and people who do stuff more than us. Yeah. Go and talk about video games. They got a chance to play their, um, you know, like three hours of the campaign and whatnot. And everyone has walked away from it. Very excited about it. And I'm very well, it gives me hope that it's actually gonna be very good. Um, a lot of people said it's very akin to dark souls. Cool. Which I'm, which I'm hoping, right. With interesting. Yeah. Different, but the thing is that somebody compared it more to secure. Oh. And I was just like, [inaudible]

no, don't do that. No, don't do that. Because we all know how I feel about security, I think. And I think that's how everyone feels. And if you don't know, fuck security. Yeah. Secure sex. Right. What is that? It sucks, but it sucks. I just hate it. Yeah. I don't blame you. It just, it's too much. It definitely too much,

but either way, it's not be a good, there'll be a good good month for video games if you're, if you're looking forward to some stuff. And there's also something else coming out too. And I've, you know, I really should do more research before we start recording really is what it comes down to is, um, Oh, I don't know why I didn't think about those either. The outer worlds is come out the newest game from [inaudible].

Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Bethesda actually after this talk about it on roads and,

well, technically it's, it's being, um, it's upsetting and entertainment, not Bethesda,

right? I mean, we're just going to talk about fall 76, obviously. Oh man, I can't wait. Yeah, we'll talk about that and we'll talk in the new stuff. Either's new stuff to talk about.

Yeah. But it's, you know, it's a, it's a essentially it's like a oblivion style game that takes place in space. I would say, you know, or I would say it's more like um, a different version of like a mass effect or anything like that. Just cause there's a lot of like games or not. Again, a lot of a lot of conversation you can have in a lot of stuff is a dialogue based. So it has taken some time to push through. JT picked it up cause he and I were texting about it and I asked him how it was and he said it's just a lot of dialogue stuff and it's hard to get through cause he doesn't, he doesn't have a lot of time right now cause I think he, I don't know if he's on tour right now but he's um, he was really excited for that game and these instance played.

So I'll have to get his thoughts on it and then see what he has to say with regards to the game. Um, I, that's, this is also another game that I'll probably pick up and play, but when it goes on sale, just cause I just don't have fucking time to do anything. But uh, there's a lot of stuff going on with it. Like it's very much like a fallout style game in the, um, you know, set in space and, and surprisingly, um, you know, cause it's made by obsidian who they did fall on new Vegas and um, they're saying a lot of people saying that it's like there's hardly any bugs, which is really surprising in today's day. Yeah. So we'll see. We'll see how it plays out. We'll see what the reviews say. But like right now in IGN it has eight and a half percent.

So it takes that for what it is. Numbers is playing it. That's all he's playing now. That's it. Okay. Yeah, he loves it. Yeah. I mean it looks cool. The trail looks, looks rad. And I'll put that, put the trailer in the, I'm in the show notes below if anybody wants to take a look at it, if they don't know anything about it. But like I feel like that was also kind of under the radar, just kind of came out. But I mean it looks cool. It's just not for, I still, I still have time to sit and play like a a hundred hour campaign. Um, right now. But it looks rad man. The game, like, just looking at this real quick. Um, it just looks pretty. Yeah, it looks very much like fallout new Vegas button space. Yup. But one day I'll be able to have time to play it, maybe, uh, over Christmas break or I'll have other games to play. Maybe I'll wait until after I'm done on FBI and then I'll really sit down and play some other games I've been meaning to play and go from there.

Uh, so moving to Bethesda talk and fall out 76, first off. Oh boy. I thought that game was dead. Uh, but you know, I don't know if you saw [inaudible] are coming out with that package. Like, I forgot how much it is a month, but it's like a monthly package to get like private servers and all this other crap that isn't worth it. And everyone's really mad at them. But all that beside all of the sneaky trying to make an extra buck off a dead game aside. Did you see fall out first.com? Did you hear about this? I did, yeah. Oh my God. So if you weren't familiar, uh, they didn't, um, something about fall. I don't know why fall out first would be, I don't know. Is that, I think, I think that's what they're called. They call, is that what they're calling the monthly thing?

Yeah. Okay. So it is, so they're calling it, they're calling this description of offers. They didn't get the domain. So someone on four Chan, God fall offers.com and they made a troll site obviously. Uh, he just would've read with this, this person, whoever it is out there, this unsung hero, uh, put as when you, when you lit a fall, offers private road scrap boxes and more coming spelled C U M M obviously does fall at 76 with a fallout. Fuck you first. Ever since fall at 76 launched, we have consistently done nothing to improve and evolve the experience based on your shitty feedback. That's why we're excited to launch. Fall out. Fuck you first. A premium ass. Oh my God. If you're going to ask bounty membership, that offers something dumb ass players I've been asking for since before launch private worlds for you and select idiot friends. So we decided to put it behind a pay wall in addition to this huge feature fall. Fuck you first also includes a host of pointless items and bonuses. All the which you can find on my, Oh God, let me and the best part, uh, is available as screw you right now. Oh my God. Like this. Whoever made this held zero punches went in with what? Everyone. Yeah. Cause I didn't play the game. I know you played it.

I played the beta and I w it was OK. Uh, and that, and it just, it was super buggy. It just felt like a cash grab and I was like 100%. I love the fall on series 100% is um, I love the fallout series and I thought it was very, I just like, I was not okay with it and I was like, you know what, I'm just going to wait for this to go on sale. Like I don't know if I even spent $5 on it to be completely honest. It just felt, it just felt like a cash guy and I was just like not okay with it. So I was like, all right, whatever. I'm just going to, I don't know if it comes out for free, like one of the PlayStation free games for the month. I mean, you know, I'll probably download it just for the trophy aspect of it, you know, just to get, try to get trophies because the trophies seem very attainable and very, you know, it's, it's not, it doesn't seem as difficult as it may seem, but, you know, do this,

the IGN video fall at $7,600 a year subscription services, a joke and the headline to follow first and more like fall out. Worst worst dude. IGN IGN usually is a little like diplomatic with stuff they held, they held open, you know what I mean? So Rob Edessa gets shit straight.

Yeah. It's unfortunate. Uh, cause they, they could have had something awesome and they decided to

huge. That should have been huge. That should have been huge rifle or fallout MMO like was essentially was right. I mean,

that's what they tried to have, but like, you know, they just didn't have man just to blew it son. Yeah. Blew it. Terrible.

Um, and then other cool news moving on from that is, uh, Microsoft out here spending Buku bucks. And if you haven't heard about this yet, uh, mixer officially has shrouded streaming on their server or on their site now and at first I was confused like, man, why is Microsoft spent in making these seven easily seven figure deals between Ninja and trout? Arguably, you know, Ninja being the most popular streamer in the shrub, probably be in the next most popular streamer in terms of like FPS and battle rails. Right. And then it dawned on me, both Ninja and shroud were at one point huge halo players. Yeah. Ninja making his name off being pro MLG halo player, right. Next year, halo six halo infinite comes out. It makes so much sense. Then Microsoft once two huge good competitive halo players to play their flagship game on their flagship streaming service.

Makes sense. Oh my God. Makes so much sense. And I was like, man, I get wanting to like make your streaming service big. Uh, I would take a lot to really to truly arrival Twitch at this point just Twitch has the international scene alongside the domestic whereas I feel like it makes her probably just doesn't have that yet, which maybe it will next year with this. Um, but then it dawned on me that halo halo infinite comes out next year and I guarantee you they're gonna probably try to buff up the competitive scene again and it, and it makes sense to do that via your own platform, right? I mean absolutely. I mean I would, yeah, I'm, I'm interested to see how that, how that fan, I'm interested to see how mixer fans out in general, cause I feel like they really are trying to match, right.

Twitch. I just feel like Twitch has more going for it and it's kind of already solidified itself. But that's the nice thing is that this shit can evolve. We're so still, we're still so young and like streaming and wig watching e-sports and stuff like that. For all we know, like there can be a third thing that comes out soon. You know, like that's big that that rivals, you know, they have like Facebook gaming, but I don't know if I ever would do Facebook game now at this point. I mean I could have, I think YouTube could have done it. I really do. I just think they didn't want to, they didn't want to invest in it and I get it. They already got their thing, you know? Yeah. But I'm curious to see what happens once stadia comes out or you know, if stadia comes out at this point.

Yeah. Th the thing, the only thing I hear that's not the best about, um, mixer is that I don't think that mixer, whenever they call them partners, whatever, I don't think they get ad revenue from commercials playing on their stream. Oh yeah. They added that with, uh, with Twitch recently. Yeah. And well, well partner is always, I'm almost sure partners always got ad revenue from commercials, but now affiliates can get ad revenue on Twitch. Oh yeah. We, we now have the option, you could run a a 32nd 62nd, two minute commercial if you want. It's on your, your dashboard, your Twitch dashboard, you can, you can click run commercial. All right, that's good to know. Yeah. The other day I had on 10 people and I was like, Hey, do you guys mind if I try this? And like, yeah. And I did it and they're like, never do that again.

Uh, that was really funny. It was that, it was literally, yeah, that was fine. Just I'll do it again. Yeah. Uh, V-Ray, it's funny but I don't know. I think it makes her just has a ways to go to do that. But I mean it's funny cause apparently now, you know, Ninja has more viewers than he did when he was like leaving at the end of his Twitch career. But he was also kind of, I feel like Twitch flame was fan like was dying out a little bit on or ninjas Twitch flame was dying out a little bit towards the end there. Um, but apparently he has a lot of years. I'm curious. Let's rock a shroud has always been someone that people love. He's like the people's champ. I love people like shroud. He's not like, he doesn't have like a a ridiculous bit.

He just a good player and just plays the game and it's cool to talk to talks to people, whatever, um, crazy that he went to shout or I went to a mixer. Crazy. That must have been so much money cause yet, you know, there are probably paying them to pay halo, you know what I mean? When it comes they, I mean they should, they should be paying again. They have to like I, they, I guarantee you they probably have a contract now, whatever, like year two year, whatever it is, Strada Ninja playing on mixer and then when halo comes out, a contract to play halo for a certain amount of time, you know what I mean? Like is that crazy? That's crazy to think about.

Yeah, I definitely, it's crazy man. Maybe we should also watch the mixer and see what happens. I mean you can also hop on the halo bandwagon if you really want to, since you're an X box player.

The only thing about mixer is like you, they just don't have the, um, they don't have the, uh, what's it called? The, the Amazon, uh, deal there. And that's the thing is like, you get that with, with Twitch, you have the Amazon prime deal, but if, if, if it, if it doesn't matter if people are still doing this and like, I guess Luke here, like, you know,

yeah. Well literally I'm watching, let's see, there's nobody watching a Marvel strike force right now. So you could be the only, we could be the only people doing this on, on mixer. So there's, is there even a Marvel straight forest, there's a Mark or Marvel strike force thing. Let's see. There's one person playing it, uh, and it says that he's offline. So I don't know. We'll see. Uh, maybe I'll start switching. I mean, I don't really have that many people following me on Twitch anymore, but maybe like, I'll switch to that. I mean, I have a mixer account that I was doing a re streams to when I was playing, uh, Fortnite back in the day. But I do like their hype train. The hype train is pretty cool. So I saw that. What does that even mean? So essentially what that is is it's all wave four if you watch the hype train and they might've changed this.

So I, you know, you can ask me if you want, if I've gotten this wrong. So the, the hype train was a way, if you're viewing that channel though, hype train channel so that the channel will go through and we'll, if you say you're watching like Fortnite or whatever, it has a way of determining where people are at the end of the match. So if it's like if it's a close fight or like you're in the top five and you're at the end circle, like the hype train goes between different channels that people who are at that moment like kind of, you know about the win, especially if you're like, you're a somebody who is not a big streamer and it's not like you're like kind of smaller whenever, like you have like, you know, a thousand people will know who's watching the channel allow. All of a sudden he's watching your channel and they can follow you, subscribe or whatever.

So it gives an interesting way of being able to have a lot of viewers or smaller channels or have somebody who's new, the uh, you know, give it, give them a chance to grow or get bigger or whatever. If they have the skill set in order, which gives us right now like, you know, on Twitch, like you just have to be lucky or market yourself or to something totally which is, which is that, so like if you have this skillset of being good, then that's all, that's a one way that they do. So that might have changed since then and it's not forever game. I think they have a program for certain types of games like fortnight's definitely in their realm. Royale was a big thing with that as well when I was playing it. Um, but still like, you know, mixers and mixers doing, uh, doing okay.

Right now there's like, I mean, they don't have like the numbers Twitch has, like right now they're top top game right now is modern warfare with six, 6,000 people watching. Sure. But like, you know, and then it's um, uh, music. They have a music thing. All right. Whatever the 6,000 for call of duty, 5,000 for music, 4,900 for Fort night and Paladins is 2,600 people are watching 1500 on the outer worlds. Um, then there's a web show smites uh, apex legend, battle Royale, I'm sorry, pub G and a bunch of other shit. So I know it's kinda like a, if you want, if you're just starting out and you're kind of like being a thing, you know that it's the, the, the trick is like if you're a small streamer, like you can get lost in the ways on, on Twitch and whatnot. But like, if you want to kind of build a following, a good way to do that is find something that's not, that hasn't really started yet on its service.

Like mixer or Facebook gaming or whatever is out now. Totally. And, and make your market that way. It's like, you know, you want to be a big fish in a little pond as opposed to a little fish in a big pond. Yup. No, that's really what it comes down to. But I don't know. I might go back to it. I know lady Deseret, uh, switched to mixer and has had some good success with it. It's just a matter of like, do I really want to start over? Which I personally don't care because I don't do it for, I do it for the entertainment value, not necessarily the, um, you know, trying to be rich and famous off of it. Yeah, totally. Um, the only thing that's kind of a bummer is Lisa, at least on PlayStation, I can't stream directly to mixture yet from PlayStation. Like I have to have my computer, my PlayStation plugged into my computer, but you know, it's fine. But then I'm sitting at my computer playing a game as opposed to sitting at my, on my screen and planting again.

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uh, well, yeah. So the trial going to mixer, big news, he usually is, he's from mixer. Kinda kind of excited to maybe what made that, I think what no Ninja going to mixer was, was big for mixer, but at the same time it's like, I wasn't like, Oh, alright, I guess I'll give mixture a try. But now it's shroud going to mixer. I like trout a lot. So maybe I'll give it a go. Totally. 100% thanks. Make sure you've now just now just, uh, pushed me to maybe try out your services yet again.

Yeah.

Anyway. Uh, what are you playing right now outside of the, of the, the uh, Battlestar Galactica game.

Oh, I also download, it was $10. Uh, another, another thing I messed up on my trip was I downloaded, uh, the Warcraft two battle chest to play on my work computer, which is a Mac. And I, uh, spent $10 in this cute little, uh, battle chest and turns out it's PC only and it's like once I got home I played it. So, uh, work craft too. I've been playing work. I have to and I don't know, I just had the kick kicker RTS lately. That Battlestar kinda kicked off. Um, terrible game. Really bad game. Just in case you're wondering. It doesn't hold up still. It's fun to play for histology purposes. Uh, does not hold up though. It does not. All right, well that's good to know. Yeah. So if you, if you fuck with 10 bucks, you can go on and go, Oh, but tonight though, this is currently a Sunday on Tuesday, you can watch the stream tonight. I will be streaming playing Friday the 13th with a bunch of my classmates. Uh, so I'm really excited to do that cause serving. All my classmates are just really into, it's free to play right now for our games with gold. Um, so interesting to see how bad I do cause I'm, I'm going to just get smoked. They all play every weekend. Uh, LIS had a download world war Z and I'm gonna try that too. I think later.

That was a lot of fun. I got that. So shout out to a game. Fly for this. But like I started, um, you know, I've been a GameFly member I think for eight, eight months or so at this point. Yeah. I like just being able to put things in my queue and things will come to me and I'll see what, what happens with it. But like I, I had, uh, I had world war Z in there and I have to say I really enjoyed it. Like I played it for probably like three weeks straight. I know we didn't really talk about it, but like, I'm, um, I almost contemplated buying it, but it's one of those games that I know that they'll have a sale towards the holiday for like 15 bucks or something. Right. It has a multiplayer only, but like, it wasn't, it felt fun and like people are still playing it and it has like a good community around it.

And I thought it was really entertaining. So I really enjoyed it. And right now, currently I have, uh, plagues tail innocence, which I am, I'm looking forward to playing once I, once I finished the campaign for a modern warfare, three or much modern warfare. And then I also have, funny enough, I have ghost recon, breakpoint coming to me from game fly. So wait, what was that? That was the one that got the really shitty reviews from, um, it's the new ghost recon that paid a pay to win for freemium. Yeah. Freemium freemium. But even though it's still $60 game, you still have to pay for like all this shit that comes with it. So I was like, all right. I mean I'll put it in my queue and see what happens. And just funny enough that it's been out for like two weeks and it's like, I normally don't get any of the new games that come to me, but we'll see.

You know, this is all coming out now. So it'd be, yeah, for sure. I'll try it out for science and see what happens. Science, gamer science, let's see what the people see what people say, but I'm looking forward to playing. I'll play stale in a sense. And then going on, continuing on with, uh, all the other games. I want to play key. You got gun. It is a nice cue. And I think what I have a, I don't want to think, I think outer wilds is going to, isn't my cue now as well, but we'll see once that all, well not all happened without a world. Not to be considered. Was it at a worlds is the one that's now or out of wilds at a world's got damaged so many things. All right. Whatever auto world is what I have in my queue currently.

Well there's two. Yeah. Since say a student for games that are wilds and outer worlds.

Yes. It's just, it's man. So difficult to keep track of. Yup. Well, you know, you do what you can play what you can. That's the beauty of that video games. There'll be there tomorrow when you wake up. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's true. They will be there forever and keep on. So, but yeah, I'll report back with that and tell you how I feel about it in like two weeks, three weeks, a month, whatever it is that we have. Whenever we're talking about ms you mean? Yeah. I don't remember it. I get confused myself now. Well I feel like it's you and I haven't talked in like a month because we had chef [inaudible] long last time, so yeah, we haven't, yeah, we haven't had a normal podcasts episode together and no, I haven't just been you and me. It's always been a guest or MSF strike force or blah blah blah, you know? Yeah. I've had like nine cups of coffee this morning, so if you could tell them and talking a lot, talking about, I gotta go unload a cup of coffee and the second if you catch my drift, God, it's mature podcast. Yes, that's fine. All right. Should we just wrap it up so that we can go take a shit rapid?

We're professionals, but yes, we should. All right. Anyway, uh, before we go, anything else that, uh, you're looking forward to or anything like that coming out in the next month or so outside of the stuff we've talked about? Uh, no. All I gotta say is, uh, I want to be the very best, like no one ever was. Well, I'm excited to hear what you have to say about the Pokemon sword and shield, what you think of whether or not I should buy it. You should buy it. No, but I think it's like I'm not big that big on Pokemon like you are. It'd be fun regardless. All right, fine. All right. Maybe I will now I'll spend my off stuff from MSF and I'll do some Pokemon said. What? What are you doing? I, you know, I clicked nimble pins. I don't know if you've ever done this.

I clicked enamel pins. I don't know what that is. A name we'll pin pins like, Oh yes, yes. And yesterday we were at a street fair in Chinatown and I found a, uh, a fat peek at you. Ah, that's amazing. Isn't that dope? All right, cool. I like that a lot. Yeah, I like it. Let's say I go there. All right. Okay. It thank you all for tuning into this episode of the overachievers gaming podcast. You can find us on Instagram at O G. dot. Podcast. Our Twitter is over-achievers P R website is being overachiever.com where you can get this episode and every other episodes where we talk about, you know, what we love about food, some tech news and sometimes gaming with regards to video games, Marvel, strike force and a, you know, every now and then we have guests on and then we'd just talk to each other cause that's what we do anyway.

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It's kind of crazy when you think about these as like every time we get to a new one it's like the same feeling, but we're going to be at like 200 if I can only write 200 in my right because you know what I mean?

I'm happy to get to like 50 at this point. We'll be good to go. Uh, anyway, this week we have Valley flying with us to talk some craziness that's happening with all the new update with Marvel strike force, uh, Valley. How's it going man? It is going good. How are you guys doing? Doing well. Thanks for coming back and being a part of the podcast yet again.

Oh, thank you for inviting me. I had a fun little under the weather this time, so my voice is a little weird, but a fully here and ready to go as is. This is fun. I love this

still. It's still smooth. Don't worry. Yeah, you can find us on Instagram at O G. dot. Podcast twitter@overachieversprwebsiteisbeingoverachiever.com where you can get this episode and every episode and of us talking about video games, what we love about them, what we hate about them. Maybe some fashion, maybe some men grooming's advice but mainly video games is what we talked about. You said it doesn't have a mustache. Yeah, exactly. That's what brought it up to me. So but uh yeah so you can find Valley streaming on Twitch that T V slash Valley flying. Right.

A valid find 76 for some reason that normal Valley flag was taken.

Yeah cause you, you're, you've been streaming now a little bit. I've I've noticed and I think actually I did a little gift subscription to casino and you are one of the uh, ones that came through cause you were just like offline cause it randomizes people. It was kind of funny I saw that happen. So now you have a tier one subscription to casino so you can go enjoy the emotes and he has

awesome. Awesome. You're off the streaming on YouTube at the same time, right. Doing a little restraint. Yeah. Sometimes I, sometimes I assigned with cast on Twitch and YouTube. Sometimes I just go Twitch because I'm not sure how it messes with the algorithms. So sometimes I just do Twitch.

Yeah, they're not, they don't, they don't like that they they get kinda angry at the restream stuff.

Yeah. I think the, uh, I think it's the, that you could do algorithm takes into account the total watch times when it's like a four hour stream and people only watch an hour. It's a, it doesn't do good for the rest of the videos. So I try to limit it on YouTube a little bit. Sure. That's fair. But your, your regular YouTube where you do most of your content is where youtube.com backslash Valley flying.

Awesome. So all galley very much appreciate you coming back on the pod and talking to some stuff. We've got a lot to unpack this week,

two weeks. This, this, this was a very, very big week. Just this week alone.

Yeah. This week was not something I had to get into it

new like a new update and the image was like, Oh, that's new character. That's a new character. That's a new character. You don't know

a lot of new characters this week, but we'll do a quick recap of the past two weeks. So we a few different blitzes. So we'll go with the aim security blitz, the Deadpool blips and currently we're in the Killmonger blitz and let you know they'll have like the red star and premiums later on today since we're recording this on a Sunday, we had the champions rate ending, which I was actually very happy about those rewards with the, you know, between the, uh, you know, uh, Legion of COBOL and pencil Hawk and we were actually able to 100% that rate, uh, quite a few times, so pushed us to do that. A alpha S for his starting and the controversial ultimate seven has made its way into our lives this past week. And I don't want to spend too much time on that because I really want to dive into that later on because that has been no bueno for us at least.

But it's a, I'm, I'm excited to unpack that in a, and talk more about that. But the main thing for this one is a, we have a slew of new character announcements and also a bunch of rework to some old characters. So we'll go with the reworks first and then we'll get into the excitement for the new characters so that there's a couple, there's five characters that were reworked given the marauders tag and the supernatural tag a with a mystic and CBRE tooth being [inaudible], sorry, mystique and tooth, getting the marauders tag and a Scarlet, which Mordo dr strange, getting these supernatural tag in them, their kids getting slightly tweaked to, you know, be a little bit better for a supernatural, um, thing with Elsa and Bloodstone and also ghostwriter, which were, uh, announced a little bit. We talked a little bit about that last time, but anyway, uh, what do you guys think about these new characters that are coming out? Especially the craziness that is mr sinister that just got announced. He's, I feel like he's going to be a new Ultron type character.

You think it's crazy. I was, I, you know, I'm excited for all of these. I was just really hoping it would be dr doom. Now I'm, I'm cool with waiting, whatever, but I just really want doctor, especially after the fantastic four stuff. Uh, but I'm excited. I'm actually reading ghost writer right now, so it's kind of the perfect time that, uh, they, they, and that's it. It's like obviously no, no relation. Like there's not like anything special with ghost writers happening. Um, so just cause the spooky Halloween, October. Well, no, there's actually a T to real quick. There's a new, there's not a new, but there's a new kind of new new line called a cosmic ghost rider destroys the Marvel universe. It's an alternate timeline. Ghost writer comes back to, yeah, it's crazy. So I'm reading that right now, but I'm excited. Goes right. It's really cool characters. I'm excited to see them. Uh, excited to see him in the game. And I heard he was like pretty Opie too, right? I mean

his is pretty strong. I just, um, unlocked him last night actually. And he's fun and even as low level, like he's only three stars right now, but his kid synergizes well with that mystic team, uh, that suits the, the, the supernatural team I guess right now. Yeah. Cause a, and I'm put in, uh, for those of you guys that don't know, the supernatural team is a dr strange mortal Scarlet witch ghost, and it's supposed to be Elsa Bloodstone, but she's out yet. So I'm using loci in a place right now. So that team's working pretty good. And just with his passive alone, he's really helping out that team. You know, his damage is pretty crappy at three stars when everybody else's at seven stars controller, he is a brawler. So he's supposed to be the damaged guy with the pastor that makes him sit around. Uh, all right.

So he grants on death. He grants to ability, energy to all supernatural allies. So because he's the weakest person on that team, he should be dying the rest of that team. Uh, when a non summon ally dies, he's going to attack the enemy that killed that. A target for a 300% damage is where I'm at now, but it ramps up and uh, so that move right there is not that great at three stars because his damage is pretty bad. But Oh, when a negative effect is applied to an ally, he's going to up the speed bar of all the supernatural allies and he's going to add health and he's got ad focused at the oldest supernatural allies as well. So cool. Just with that, he's a pretty good addition to the team even though his damages pretty bad,

that team needed some love with it, I think so. I said that's cool to see. They got a lot of those a lot, right? Yeah. My, my supernatural team are not great. I have not worked on dr strange or Scarlet light light whatsoever.

They're really missing a place in the, as far as having a team right now without the supernatural team. So it's good to give them that place that they're really missing.

Yeah. Got it. I don't, my only problem, like I don't really care if they ever deviate from comic stuff for this game cause it's like a different universe, you know, whatever. But man, Scarlett, which is easily one of the strongest characters in the Marvel universe, and to see her so fucking whack and as a healer is like such a bummer because dude, I just need to say it. There was a line called the house of M and scar that which literally like shut off the universe and changed everything. Like she got rid of like three quarters of the mutants in the world, easily one of the Sean's characters and she just so fucking whack in this game. It's like, come on.

Oh six. She, I gotta say I like, I like using her. She's fun. Um, you got to use her on the right team though, because that opening move where she extends those buffs, if you, if you already have a lot of D buffs, um, she, she makes, she makes it very hard to do anything. If, if, uh, she does that to you. Sure. Fair. Like I accidentally went against a, a, a, a supernatural, not accidentally, but I went against them to kind of test it out. I got wiped out so bad and, uh, all those deep buffs on there and it's Scarlet, which is extended. It is, it was horrible. Yeah. She's, she's very niche. I, I'll give you that. You gotta you gotta use her in the right team. You gotta plug her in and then, and then she's good.

Fair. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited to see how she synergized with everything else. Cause the only person who she said in his drives before with was vision, but vision goes on power armor. So she,

I mean it's not listed, but her synergy with Marto is really, really good as well. Uh, because Mordo I was using her with Marto initially. She'll, uh, mortal, we'll put the blinds on the enemy to extend those blinds. So it's a two turn line pretty much. So her synergy with mortal was already really strong and now it's, even now it's even better.

Is that a good counter to aim then since Amos throwing somebody bus on themselves?

No, no, no, no. Any, anybody that don't put a lot of DeVos on aim is in trouble. So Brotherhood's bad.

Amen. Amen. Right. They want the bus. That's my bed. Yeah. You want the DebOps and man, I have to say I've been, I in the past, I guess month Sims AME rework has been announced with a, with a Gravatar and all that stuff. I have put a hard stop on everything else and I've been leveling up aim and never thought I'd say that. But is that hilarious? It's just, it's been ridiculous dude. Like I've lost so many fights in war or attack due to aim. Like they like I'm over compensating by like a hundred K and still losing fights. It's ridiculous. You want to know the secret for that? Yeah. Save your defenders for orphans and take out, aim with your defenders. Get outta here.

That's offenders work so well against him.

And what's interesting too is um, one thing that the uh, what's it called, um, shield actually does very well against them because they're fast so they can actually go through and take out. You're hitting like so many first person appearance. If you take out scientist Supreme or whatever their healer is or gravity time, like it's pretty easy at that point. Like it's not like I'm not going against the strongest teams as you, but I found that brawlers work because my captain America and Mike Gomorrah who both have high red stars are hitting them first immediately. So I'm almost a hundred percent taking out someone big beforehand with me because I obviously am using brothers for offense cause that my captain Merrick has five red stars and make a Mora is captain Marvel captain Marvel. I keep saying that's America. Thank you. Uh, am I Gomorrah is four red stars, but uh, six, six stars total.

So like they're hitting so hard right off the bat, but like again, like I'm still, they're still so much lower so it's like a whole different ball game. But um, I love that. [inaudible] I it on [inaudible] they're fun. They're fun. I didn't have Demora on it at first and then I just recently got her up so many stars. I was like, Oh yeah, she's, she's going on. Yeah, she's good for brawlers. I use her for brawlers as well, just to keep it, you know, just have someone else on there, but I'm going to have to redo a bunch of new teams I want and want, not just to see what happens. Yeah, for sure too. You know, with all these new characters coming out and like new with a, you know, strife and mr sinister, well, how are they getting announced and Hela and putting them on new teams and whatnot. I'm actually kind of excited to start breaking up some teams and make it a little bit more insurance. I mean, that's that and like, you know, I do get it, there's a lot of complaints that they going back, like to talk about the new teams. There's a lot of complaints like on, obviously you read it, which there's always complaints, but about there being too many characters too fast and blah, blah, blah. And it's like,

well we, it doesn't matter how fast it comes, we need more characters. Like we need to change in the meta changes in the game. It makes it more fun. It like reinvigorates it, you know? And it's like no one's making you, no one's forcing you to upgrade all these characters this the day they come out, you know what I mean? Take your time. And I get it. I'm inpatient, I get a new character like I'm going to unlock. I finally get Magneto when, uh, uh, his event starts in like a day or two, whatever it is, I'm finally get Magneto and it's like, yeah, I've been saving for him. Like I, I'm like, I'm going to upgrade the shit out of him immediately cause I really want him, you know, I'm like, right, brotherhood is so whack without him, but like, you know, if you know what character is coming out that you like, if you want to say afforded dope, if not, whatever, do take your time. Like, we're still playing a game on our phone, you know what I mean? So it'll be, it'll be okay if the world isn't over, we want more characters. We don't want, like if, if we do, that's something we do definitely need more of or a change in them.

That was that was, that was that, that would be more resources. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, I'm fine with like a lot of people on Reddit haven't been complaining about that now we don't need them anymore. Characters. We don't have enough resources. It's like, no, we should ask for more characters because that makes the game fun. We should just agree on request for the a,

they weren't doing this many character drops. This game would be dead. Yeah, like we, it would, it would, it would die 100%

well, well let me propose the, the flip side of that, because I've experienced that in star Wars galaxy of heroes where they would announce maybe one character every two or three months way back in the day. That was horrible. So I'd much rather have this problem with too many characters into little couches. This is a good character. This is a good problem to have

time to upgrade that you will or you will have the ability to upgrade it. It is so much better to be stuck with too many characters that you, that you are going to upgrade at some point than to not have it like did not have anything. You know what I mean?

Yeah. But that's kind of the point of their business model to give you so much to choose from that you've got to make a choice or you've got to spend to get everything, you know. So that's kind of how it is. Right? A win or you know, pay to enjoy it I guess. Suppose however you want, it's the collector game. They want you to finish your collection and you're not supposed to finish your collection unless you spend a lot of money. It's like MMOs. It's the same shit interestingly. And so what do you guys think about that? Well we talked a little bit about ghost rider. What do you guys think about strife and mr sinister and Elsa, we don't really know too much about Elsa cause obviously her actually funny enough is there is not a announcement for when her campaign starts, but on a different Marvel website.

It said that her and I are, her campaign starts on October 26 so that'll be Thursday if anyone paying attention. That's funny. So by the time this podcast comes out, you can all find her campaigns starting two days later on Thursday the 26th so woo be cool. I'm actually looking forward to that. I like, I like when they add new campaigns. I think the writing in the campaigns is hilarious and fun and I really think that's, that's something that I personally really enjoy as a storyteller. Oh yeah. The campaigns are fun. Yeah. And uh, and I'm looking forward to actually being able to unlock her without having to drop a ton of money cause I've stopped really spending money in the game. So that's what I'm looking forward to. At the same with ghost writer, I haven't unlocked, I know a bunch of people will pay to unlock him, but I'm just going by as much as I can with the blitz with the character blitzes, with the Jack lantern, opening the orders, trying to get him [inaudible] without having to open my wallet to see it. And so far, I'm like two thirds of the way there. So we'll see. I'm at like 67 charts or something like that. I went, I went pretty hard on blitz and I unlocked him without spending, I've put a lot of time auto in this blitz. Yeah.

So that's kind of how it is. You gotta either spend a lot or play a lot and have fun playing. So even if it's looking at these teams, you know, they do physical character. So I'm really excited to see her. I know nothing about her outside of, she's in Marvel ultimate Alliance three, so she's like a zombie Hunter. She's kind of like Helsing of the, of the marvels, like a female van Helsing from Marvel that alright, she chose undead characters,

but there is this, there is this event, um, called, um, it doesn't matter, but essentially dr strange tries to bring back Las Vegas from the dead cause hydrated destroys it. It's really cool. And myth Vista like pops in the town. He was like, Oh, you trying to bring all these people back from the dead? Like you can't get that past me. And so there's like a supernatural team with like Wong, Elsa blade, a ghost writer, and like, like someone else said, Oh man, a man thing. And they go into Vegas. Yeah, man thing. He's like a swamp thing kind of. It's this man and I think it's been long than it wrong. He's like this big swampy creature. He's really cool and they're going to Vegas and beat up Sophisto obviously she's a part of that team. It's like the [inaudible] is like, it's like the B team of just like supernatural fighter. She's cool though. She's, she's just, she's just a badass. Like [inaudible] it's like, it's always funny when you meet, um, a character in like a comic or a supernatural world that isn't like super powered. They're does fuck their school.

Yeah. What it is is it's just like the punishers. You just have those shotguns and no superpowers of the supernatural world. Yeah. She's British. So she's got super powers automatically. Exactly. Yeah. Knock people out with that accent. [inaudible] but circling back around, what do you guys think of the, the, the new additions to the game with, uh, hella strife and Micala doke. Hello? And are you guys calling the undeadS guardian Greg? Yes. 100%. Okay. I wasn't sure, but yeah, Greg. Oh my goodness. They look so strong. Black grandparents may have a field with Greg.

No. Okay. You, are you familiar with their kit? No, not at all. Okay. So, so what happens, uh, when she is, uh, spawned, she will some in Gregg, the undead as guardian and whenever, whenever Greg dies, she'll summit Greg again and if she's, and if he was used on word defense anytime, any non [inaudible] as guardian. So Loki and Thor, whenever they die, she'll someone, another Greg it multiple times who just keep coming back to life until she's dead. So

we only have three Asgardians right now. Right. We just have a Loki Thor and hello.

Great loci thorn. Helis well, Loki and Thor. Yeah. Not here yet, but apparently they're coming in November. Do you know the rumors? Characters? No. Heindel and I don't know who the other ones, y'all SIF are the rumored characters. And here's this person that gave the rumors, have his, had very accurate predictions before and has missed on some before. So could do with a grain of salt. But that is the rumors right now.

Surprisingly. I'll do Valkyrie before SIF. Dockery has more play in the world right now, but whatever. I like SIF. SIF is cool. I don't know who that is. So sip is like Thor's like booty call kindda. Oh, okay. Sorry. SIF was in the first door movie there. The female? Yeah. Oh, okay. But on Natalie Portman league in the second movie, she's the one that gets all jealous and Natalie Portman being there and shit. Uh, yeah. Uh, but she's, she definitely cool. She has a cool part in more the realms which is happening right now. I've got to stop talking about the comics. Um, well that's the interesting part because that's where I learned more about the backstory of the comics. Either, listen, I throw this plugin, I wish we were sponsored by them. I thought this plug in every time to get Marvel unlimited, it's like 60, it's like 70 bucks a year. You can read every single Marvel comic up until the last six months. So like that's crazy. It is honestly the best deal that ever exists. So if you want to be comics, you should read that because that's interesting

because I used to collect comics as a kid and I got a bunch of them at my parents house. But I don't think I've read,

well the cool thing about this game is that like it brings, it brings a lot of people together that probably aren't in the comics or aren't into Marvel or anything cause it's just fun and there's a lot of characters and like, you know, we see these movies, but like if you have the chance, like these comics are art are so good, even the bad ones are good and all they do is just keep getting better cooler stories. And you know, we have like nearly a century of comics, uh, a two tier disposal if you, if you so choose to like check him out. Like seriously since, I dunno the submariner was what in the forties or something? I don't know. Like the first marvels. Yeah. He wasn't. So like if your first go back to like that long ago to read comics but hellish should be dope fun fact though. Everyone cause the movies. Ella thinks things a hell is the word lowkey sister. But in the comics

hell is actually Lokeys daughter. Fun fact. Oh yeah, that is, that is a big chase. That's what makes sure that the rest of her kid is good as well. Yeah. It's not just that Greg part. Yeah. I like the clear DBA or a clear death proof on a whenever the AOEs, which is great.

Yeah. The other thing she does with that same move, she's going to spread the negative effects from one target to everybody. Oh my goodness. Like venom. Carnage is basic but better.

Yeah. Crazy. I'm looking, I'm looking forward to that. I'm saving some more red stars I think for her. I think she's going to be ridiculous when she comes out and it's going to be available. So I think I might, yeah, try my best to get her unlocked a little bit because she's going to be going to be good for war defense I think because I think she has a little bit of a, a perk in her passive for war defense as well.

Both of these teams, this our scout eons and the marauders are a build for, they have key things in their kit for warp defense. So type a mechanics coming.

Yeah, it's be, I mean, interesting work stuff, but I just wish that they would have more versatility in all the game modes for characters.

Yeah. So one thing, one thing that was mentioned was making all of these bonuses, like the word defense of war officer rates available just for the blitz mode. And that wouldn't kind of break the modes as I put out a poll on YouTube and the responses has been pretty good and I'm gonna reach out to Jason Bender and tell them about it and hopefully there's something that they could add because, uh, you know, you can do your four defects, you don't get to experience all of the benefits and all the coolness that that character does, you know, so it's kind of a wasted, I'm not a word defense team, so you're like, Oh, I got more wins, but I don't really get to see all these cool mechanics. But if something like that was added to maybe a blitz mode across the board, it wouldn't really, um, change the competitive integrity of that of blitz because everybody would be affected. So I would be in favor or something.

Would you guys, teams are, are good enough that they could survive in blitz even like power armor so strong obviously fit as far as so strong with name were even in there. But yeah, I think that would be dope, dude. That'd be awesome. I would love that. Yeah. Just, yeah, it would be kind of rad. It'd be, I'd be curious to see how that works out. And I think it's a good spot, especially like if you don't have care, like if you just have these characters on locked or like throw like 30 level, 30, like 10,000 power, it'd be good to at least see how they work, you know. But it'd be curious. Well, uh, I will definitely be rooting for you talking to [inaudible] about that and I think, Oh, I don't know if it's going to do anything, but I'll definitely talk to, give us a little push for the Envoy program while you're there too. Cause we're trying to get them Oh, mentioned have you messaged anybody about that? I've talked, I've, I've emailed 'em a Cerebro but I haven't heard anything back. So I got a whole lot of uh, newer clients that do with the,

the Italian kid curses too much. Yeah, sorry bud.

Either. Either way. It's, it's, it's, it's um, you know, we're, we're keeping on keeping on whether or not we get it cause we enjoy this game and enjoy talking about it either way. But the uh, yeah, so going on, what do you think about Stripe and adding that Marauder tag and having, uh, you know, mystique and sabertooth as a part of that, that team?

I actually, I don't, I don't know. That's where my comic knowledge, I'd known not much about X-Men world or like the world of X men. So I don't nothing about the marauders or what they are. So

some are I know a little bit

because like, yeah, they don't wait to tags with marauders.

Uh, those are the only two characters right now that are getting they tagged. So the saber tooth was in the marauders mystique was in the marauders, a gambit was in the marauders briefly. Um, so I was like, Oh, maybe this means gambits coming into the game. I don't know. But, uh, strife was not a Marotta is, is like a group formed by mr center. So a lot of the characters, I don't know the names of off the top of my head, you're kind of your characters, but Sabretooth was in there, you know, pretty big character scene with mystique. So, um, interesting as strife is like a clone of cable and he's technically not a Marauder but they gave me the tag. I just, just kind of for some synergy in the games. So, um, it could be interesting who they, who they give a the final piece of that team that tagged for, you know, cause if you'll get someone in that reaction will Rotter squad or someone outside like strife.

Yeah, no, and I was just thinking about now like looking up Wikipedia just real quick just to see what's going on is I wish that in the game if you were to click on someone's profile, did they just gave you like a little bit of backstory of how they, you know, where they come from, all that kind of stuff. Just like maybe a paragraph

it'll say like, Oh, a controller based blah blah blah. Yeah. Yeah.

It would be nice just to have like, Hey, here's a little bit of like a backstory of who this person is and where they come from and where they are in the MCU gaming world or whatever, or the NGO. So that would be, yeah, just a little blurb for each character would be kind of cool. It just gives you a little bit of reason to, you know, read up, read up about somebody or just understanding where that, cause I have no idea anything about blood, uh, Elsa or mr. sinister or strife or hell. I mean I know hella but like I didn't know anything really about Ghostrider either. So I was like, I don't know anything about this outside of me doing my own research on it. So

that's right. It's a super cool character. Like yeah. Nicholas cage movies should not be in the, Oh God, it's so bad too. Have you seen the Nicholas cage gross writer? I have when he's, when he first, when he first like goes like hell fire like blah, I'm on fire.

Oh so bad fire in my brain. Yeah, go straight to cool. Sorry, I, I totally hear ya. There should, that would be cool if there was a little thing, but like this are there, there's so much like w like there's almost too much you could do. There's not enough room on our, on our phone screen to fit any on any kind of summary. That's the thing that's remembered is um, these characters are constantly going through changes in their universe. Right. So right now, the first ghost rider, uh, was not Robbie Reyes. I think he's the new one. Um, but then like the original ghost rider isn't even the, the current ghostwriter. Yeah. The current gross writer's name is, is Robbie Reyes, right? I think so.

Okay. He's enjoying not Robbie. Robbie raises that ghost rider to, that came into the, the shield show. So I think he's the current one.

Yeah. So like the last one, which I forgot what his name was. Uh, he's currently, he's in charge of hell. Currently ms Vista was out in the end, like Robbie and like the original ghostwriter is Johnny blaze. Blaze. Yes. Johnny boy. That's the one that's in the game. That's the version that's in the game. So like, which if you're making this game right and you have this in your, when to give the character a little summary, who do you put? Do you do the O G do you do what's currently in them? And this is those Johnny blaze one that, I know I get that. But I'm saying though, if you were to add like summaries of the character, how do you, how do you choose I guess, but obviously that's different because that's very specific. We know that Johnny blaze, but like I, I, it'd be very interesting to see how they, and like, you know that there's gonna be some nerd on the sub right at like, well they got this information wrong, but

there's so many people say that already. Well there's brothers, they kind of have their own universe. If you look at it in this game, it's not, it's not totally from the comics, it's not totally from the movies. It's just kind of a mix of many different sources of what is, what

they kind of using totally with their theme in this game for sure. Which is in the a Marvel gaming universe is now a thing. So, I mean in the, in the newest, uh, spider gettin which was an event that just happened out too long ago, they pull out, cause all the spider people from all the multiverse are coming together and in six months, six to fight these, uh, these like demon or this a vampire family, they pull out the Spiderman from the PS four game. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, okay, this is cool. They are recognizing that that is its own universe. You know what I mean? Like Oh that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I'm PR, I'm all about, I love it. I think it's awesome. You know, kind of cool how they set it up like that. Yeah. There's multi multi-verse universities that they can pull the video game. Yeah. Different storylines. Yeah.

It's continuing back around yet again. Okay. Right. Mr sinister for so long, I know I really want to talk about this. I want to just talk about how broken mr sinister is going to make this game can because

I'm curious to see about what his release is like. But Dom, I don't know if you looked at his, his kit whatsoever. Not at all. And I know I texted you about it so far behind on anything. I'm just happy to be home right now. I've been gone, I've been gone into quotes, informational for you and we get to talk about it. So one of the things that's gonna make him insane is the he his ability to clone somebody from the opposite team and bring them to your team at his fullest status. So, Oh man, I don't know how this is going to work. Like can you imagine if you're fighting an Altron team and mr sinister, we'll start with that with three energy, but then his passive gives you three energy as soon as he takes a turn. And so he can use his clone ability out the gate. Yeah, turn one. And you imagine just cloning and all drawn on your team and then you have multiple trans or keep cloning all trons or however you want to do that. It's gonna be insane, man. I'm telling you why, but yeah.

Oh and the clothes will spawn with 90% of the speed bar filled as what was just eight of mind. Really. All mine. Slowly. We'll see if that stays in or not, but a if that is it, that's crazy. Hopefully, hopefully that day come by.

Even still, I think that like the game has needed like a new mechanic. I think for a while. And I really think this is gonna make some interesting teams and can either, it's either going to break the game and it's going to be just like, who's got the more powerful mr sinister or it's gonna turn into like just, uh, you know, turtling back and forth with a bunch of different stuff, which I think is what they're trying to do with like all the, the word defense tags is they don't want people rushing to full clears. They want it to kind of be more of like an engagement in a fight, which I understand because a, you know, they're, we have in our Alliance, we've, we've run into issues where it's, who can full clear the fastest, but I'm, yeah. And so like, I kinda liked that back and forth with like, Hey, this makes it more interesting.

And you're trying to use characters too, you know, you know, you're not just having one attack clears a room, you know, it's like a one attack can, you know, do some damage and do some stuff. So I'm curious to see what they do with that with mr [inaudible]. But man, Holy crap with him and strife in there because Stripe is going to be the tank on the team for sure. And he like starts with like some deflects and some defense ups and whatnot and he'll have like, he'll increase his taut on each turn and then, um, but just mr sinister in itself is just gonna be broken 100%. It's going to be, I'm just curious what kind of level to make him as he's going to be an Ultron level or if he's going to be the new reward for the new fear of the darkness or, you know, I don't know what they're going to call the next year of the darkness, but just a, yeah.

Fingers. Here's a, here's an interesting thing that, uh, we were talking about. Mr sinister has a relationship with apocalypse. So some people are, Oh, theorizing, maybe apocalypse would be the new dark dimension. Character. Makes sense. Currently right now there's house of which is

the comic series that is saving X men X men has been pretty bad for the last like year or so. And Jonathan Hickman news arguably the best, one of the best comment writers of all time came back to do house of X, which is currently happening. And this industry has a big part in powers of X, one of the side stories. Uh, so it'd be cool if there's an apocalypse stuff cause he's popping right now with, with the new reinvigoration of accident.

Both. I mean mr sinister looks strong enough. Apocalypse definitely be strong enough for a new dark dimension. Both of them. Yeah, seriously. I would, I would

welcome apocalypse [inaudible] w I want to say doctor do, I mean they'd have to be like all Tron level of character.

I think those are the two top names that are being thrown out by the community, uh, apocalypse and dr doom for the new dark dimension.

Totally. Totally. Yeah. Who would you guys want? I want doctor dr doing, she's one of the coolest characters ever created. Like, like, like at one point he was like literally got in for, do you know what I mean? Like dr doom is easily one of the coolest characters ever made it in. Like in comic books. He would, there's like no telling how Oop he could be in this game. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I dunno. I don't know much about dr doom. I didn't read much of fantastic four. I just know him from the little bit of games

a favor. Just read. Um, um, Oh my God. If you can remember, you can text it to me later if you want. I'm going to put on, it's a, it's essentially the event that restarted the Marvel universe. Okay.

That, that, Oh, it's true. I that out later. Yeah. Me personally, I'm really looking forward to, if we get it in the, in the future, I'm sure we will. Is getting Iceman Iceman was my ex men of all time or a, it wasX men and Archangel work. My two favorites. Not growing

both. Oh G X men by the way, that aren't into game yet.

I know I'm, I'm, I'm waiting for that cause that'll be a lot of people like ghost writer. A lot of people liked 'em, you know.

Alright dude.

Yeah, the other characters have come in like Phoenix monster and stuff. But like for me, Iceman and, and Archangel would like to, my favorite skill of growing up with watching that cartoon, playing those games and like, you know, Sega Genesis and NES and all that sort of stuff and just having those, there's a, there's things that they're, and I was like, those are my favorite characters cause I just really like the way they played. So that's what I'm looking for. Jesus Christ. Oh, secret Wars. Oh yeah. Yeah. I've

read it. Reread it again. No, it was the last iteration, which I think was what 2015 were. Dr. Duke [inaudible] power, the beyonders and [inaudible] recreates and merges all the universes in the one battle world. It's honestly one of the coolest comics ever written. Like doom was strong enough to kill Scott Summers when he had the Phoenix force to kill fantasy to kill dr. Strange. Like he just, dr doom was just the most overpowered. Yeah. Dude, Scott Summers walks out of this pod all the way. Phoenix forced up and it's like, you're nothing do and blah, blah, blah. Like I am the Phoenix and doom straight up grabs him by the throat, disintegrates his body. All this. Let's have Scott Summers, spine and skull. Oh, it's so hard. It was so hard. Oh man. Crazy.

Crazy. Well, I don't, I don't think he's going to be that strong if he comes to the game just for

honestly, that was like the, that was the most Opie any character could be, you know what I mean? Uh, but yeah, he's, he just, he, for a normal guy who just had his body messed up, dr doom has somehow created just this like aura of awesome. Right? Like he's the controller. He's the leader of lap area. He like gets, he could like, just give out powers, cosmetic. Like the dude is just, he's bad. I'm excited. I, I want him, I want him bad.

Alright, sorry to keep to keep on this tangent. But the rumor when he came when the fantastic four came out was that he was supposed to kind of replace name or in that fantastic force squat to make them a raid viable team. And then silver surfer was supposed to replace name or make them a [inaudible] dr do for arena and then a silver surfer for rates. So, uh, whether that rumor still happens or not, we'll see that that is the, what was rumored about dark.

Quick question though, is there only specific abilities for teams and characters for reign in war right now? Is there any Blitzer, arena characters? Yeah, there isn't. That's very tag specific. No. Right. Yeah. I'm sure we'll see that at some point. I'm sure.

Yeah, it couldn't, I mean it, it'll definitely, if they're smart about it, they'll make it so that way that happens. But it would make sense to have blitz just give them the ability to, you know, use the same, you know, for sure.

No, they were [inaudible] with blitz being so insane, like tier, anything above tier seven is like, even like, like a tier six is like difficult now I feel like, like, but seven and eight is just, Oh my goodness.

It depends on the teams, depends on the teams. If you get to met a team or a synergized teams is, it's almost impossible to beat. But once in a while you'll find those weird mixed teams and you're like, even even though they have a lot of power, you could wipe them because they're not synergized well, yep. It's rare. It's rare. But they do exist. Those connections. Indeed. So ultimate seven dropped this week. I know it teased it a little bit

and uh, they single-handedly will not, not single handling I suppose, but it's like they did a, uh, a one two punch of, they nerfed the rewards out the gate and also made it exponentially harder than it was when it first came around. So what do you guys think about this? I know our Alliance is pretty in there. We're like the number 120 fifth Alliance with total collection power. And we can barely hit 35% on ultimate, et cetera. It's ridiculous. What do you guys think, how do you guys fairing with ultimate seven with this new difficulty spike and the, uh, what do you think about the kind of shitty rewards they have worked? We're getting 30%. That's like my claim, my clan's doing 30. All right, that's good. That's good. Yeah, I'm happy enough for that. I mean at 30% the rewards are slightly better than ultimate six at 100%.

So it's worth it slightly. Well, I did the, um, I did the math on it. It's actually you need 35% to get the same rewards as ultimate. Seven is when it comes to 35% cut off. Essentially what the cutoff, uh, or to get more rewards for a daily is you have to clear all the way up until the second boss, no. Dot. The clear, this the second boss. Now we have to clear the nodes up into the second Boston in order to surpass ultimate six in terms of grade season points on sort of stuff. So if you can get to that point and continue on, if you can't get to that point, I recommend maybe running it once a week and then running you six daily so that way you can get there. And also, um, you know I'll get your raid season points so you can get your, your, your tier formats and whatnot for your characters.

But I've now we're having this discussion right now cause I'm one of the officer's in my Alliance, we're having this discussion now is do we focus on clearing you seven or getting as far as we can use seven daily or do we continue with you six and I made these suggestions like we should continue with you seven but we should also start focusing more on, we should start requiring people to start focusing more on routine. Cause I have currently three raid teams right now and as much as I really don't want to, I'm going to start working on what condoms, just because I need something to help clear some, you know, even just throw in as like a sacrificial team that I'll take out like three or four characters. And then I can throw something else in. But you know, I have a new a what I'm, I guess people have dubbed it is the best rate team, which is a fantasy invisible woman.

Uh, rocket Star-Lord and Minerva cause that is just, it's just BKT but Oh without, without group, without group because uh, I have a her, I don't have her passive max. I have an ultimate past, uh, ultimate max and her special max. Cause that all starting chief for max. Yeah, the tier four America. So because not all the offense down for two turns on everyone is glitch and you seven I believe. And if the way, if you have it positioned correctly, I have her between Star-Lord and and [inaudible] that, you know, she's just getting energy all the time and then she can just often sound everyone that's just, it's been pretty clutch in alpha for, for me. Okay. And I finally just got her, she's almost here 13, so I'm excited for that. But still rocking five [inaudible] big invisible woman. I'm jealous. Yeah. But I definitely, I like that team lot.

I started experimenting with that in year six and I could just, normally I would have, I could auto you six with a little bit of like, okay I have to step in and do so put that that team, I don't have to even do anything and just thought, Oh it'd be good to go cause it just, you just keep everyone barriers and if you get hit a little bit then you know, whenever someone dies, I'm in urges, auto Hills and whenever they, everybody does so. But I have that, I had defenders team and then I have a hodgepodge, a little bit of a, a Guardian's team that kind of works out well with, um, uh, who else is in there? I can't remember who I have right now, but it's like, you know, the leftovers that I have. So like groups in there. Um, with Gomorrah, no rocket because he's on my other team. But uh, it works out. How's your shield and X-Men? Cause I would recommend building them before your condoms. Yeah, well my shields had 192K so there, okay. The, my Wakandans are 122 Ks and they're not great, butX men are, are actually pretty decent. My X men team is at is one of my, is my second strongest team overall. So I'm excited for the rudeness of beast, which makes him raid viable. So

now if you, if you just want to refresh Phoenix every,

yeah, but like I'm saying to not have to refresh the knife but that's what I'm, I'm, I'm excited for his, you know, or I'm not well excited for just having bees to have a better [inaudible]. But yeah, I'm, I'm, I've been giving it a hard look at what I want to work on for my team and I actually want to ask that for when we do the team advice thing and what you guys think would be a good, a good third or fourth rate team. But we'll can, we can come back to that later. So either way.

Cool. I'm actually liking the difficulty of this. You know, I might be in the minority but is more of a challenge. I think it's more fun than just ongoing ultimate six as well. So great difficulty. I'm fully in favor of the rewards though. They're a little, they're a little bad. I got an zero. So soccer to casino earlier this week about that and he may, he brought up a good point because one day when he did the reward super low like this, it gives them room to increase it and you're like, Oh we weren't calibrated with our rewards. Right. We could always bump the rewards up. Whereas if they give too much rewards, they can't be like, Oh shit, this is going to break the economy. We've got to scale it. So I'm hoping that this just means like, Oh, you know what? We weren't right. We're going to increase the reward, make the community happy. Cause that they did, they did that similarly with the ultimate six when that first came around, the rewards were very, very bad and they ultimately increased it after a couple of weeks or so if I'm remembering correctly. So, um, I'm hoping that's what happens here. Cause other than that, I w w I'm fully in favor of this race. The rewards weren't a little better.

Yeah, I don't mind. The difficulty, the difficulty is not the thing that like makes it tough, but like I feel like if you can reliably 100% use six, no problem, you should be able to at least reliably 30% use seven. And that's kinda like the benchmark. But I know that first time we did it, man, we just, it took some, it took some like refreshes and heals and like I spent a ton of course just trying to get back up to 30% are they now we're like, you know, around 35 to 40%. Um, on the, on the stand on the road reliably we can hit that. But it's just, man, it just makes me realize like, okay, well I guess I gotta start working on and wore off defense teams in war defense teams now. Gonna start working on raid teams again. So there's that. That's great. Can't wait. There goes all my gold yet again. Well that's, that's, that's what Fox news is doing. Yup, that's true. They're causing you to prioritize which moving the goalposts.

Am I right? It's not as bad as what they did before. That's true. You're very, very true. Like, cause they, they said they said that first strike a, this is like a preliminary version. The real one's going to be harder than room. One's going to have less rewards. I was expecting it. I was expecting more readable. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. I'm happy. Yeah. So outside of that, outside of that and just like the craziness that is you seven, uh, what's coming next? So you guys are looking forward to, I know we mentioned it with the new characters coming out with new, other new things happening, you know, Elsa blood stones, uh, events, campaigns happening on Thursday. So that's coming up next. Anything else that's coming out that you guys are looking forward to in the MSF world?

Well, not like, not like things that are specifically new, but obviously I'm really excited to get Magneto finally as like a middle of pure character. That's all I need is coming out. Yeah. Yeah. Like the new, the magnet event in two days. Um, I'm just wants to talk about that. I'm excited just to have Magneto and brother cause brotherhood is just very strong. So I'm excited to get that. But other than that, now everything we talked about is really exciting to me, so I'm stoked. So

yeah, this is a lot in a lot of new content that they added. I'm excited that they started adding a bunch of new content, which is what we need. Although

I can't wait, like I just feel like I seriously woke up to an update and it's like everything is different. Oh

yeah. New background. You like load screens, new characteristics, which are awesome. Oh, totally. Oh, and the team ops work again, I don't know if you noticed the must do where it animates the game that were disabled. Totally forgot all about that. Yeah, something. And so I'll have a fun story about mag Nina. So like I've been sitting on a, I've been sitting on mystique tooth and pyro at seven stars. I've just been waiting to seven star him for the mag Neo events. I'm like, all right, cool. So it came around, I just, I seven start everybody spending a 1.5 million gold or something like that. And then I looked last night after I just finished seven starring mystique cause I was waiting for the, I was waiting for the reset at 8:00 PM Eastern to be able to, you know, manage my gold properly for milestones, for Colson on sort of stuff. And I went and I looked at the Magneto event, it's like, okay cool, I'm ready to go. And I was like, Oh, I forgot I have a seven star Wolverine, a seven star Phoenix, a seven star,

all the little people. I was like, I didn't need to spend all this gold. But you know what though, that's just going to make your brotherhood team that much better. So it's not like it's a total waste. I know it will, it will pay for itself.

Yeah. It was just funny that I was like, Oh man, I gotta get like, I gotta get a saber tooth up, I gotta get mystique up, I gotta get PIRE up. I was like, all right, cool. I'm just gonna, I'm gonna spend this wisely. And I just realized I just needed one person I need to spend on, but Oh well it's fine. It'll be good for the events. And like you said, it's not a, it's not wasted. So as long as you didn't screw up your milestones or, cool. Yeah. I mean I tried to, I tried to do it. Well how are you guys doing for Colton?

For me, I'm walking of slow for me and I feel like I'm like purposely dumping golden shit. Like what am I at? I'm like, I'm kind of bummed by it cause I'm not close to Colson yet. But luckily we had this event going for still like forever, for awhile. I think most people should unlock. Oh better. I met, Oh, I'm at 97 880 that's not so sad. But yeah, that's not so bad. I do have met five red stars, so that'd be funny to get him all that. Man, I hate you so much. I know I'm sitting at 150 out of 180 just from him. Just trying to be, you're almost there.

I'm almost sorry. I probably like another week or two and I'll be able to get him. Although I don't, my shield team's not the greatest, so he'll get leveled. I know you said make it the greatest man. I'm slacking him only a one 26 kicking my butt. Huh? Well we have 'em we, we hit those milestones pretty frequently. I don't know that if you guys hit this,

I've been getting them and getting the world warrior and then the energy ones is the gold ones

really behind with, yeah, that's, that's the difficult milestones and what not to hit. I found, I feel like as I tried to go for like a million or 1.2 million for the milestones because that's where I feel like that's the, I'm, it's crazy that you just,

where, where is your gold coming from? I'm not getting that much cold that day at, so I don't know where people are getting to go. Me and I, I do. I mean I do all their refreshes up to a hundred cores on the energy and I just get, you know, I'm farming for different shows. I just don't get that. I just don't get it.

I dunno. Maybe I'm just getting lucky with gold poles. I don't know. Maybe I haven't. Uh, I haven't hit a 3 million gold pool yet, but I keep, I get like, you know, once a month I'll get a 1 million pool or something like that. So, which is, um, those in the past, I haven't had any recently. That's probably where it is. So, you know, the crane theory,

the crane, I've heard of it. Alright. So I've heard of it. I've heard it mentioned. So here, here's a secret for everyone. I'm going to get honest to say a hot take right now for everyone who's listening. The crane one for me, cause I've heard it before, I've never fully had it explained to you. So the crane theory

is when you're in, you're in. So if you click on the a, you know, if you're, if you're, if you have the gold or open or whatever, um, if you click on it and like if you hit like a, you know, get, when you're looking at there or claim or whatever and you're looking at that screen where you can hit open. So the crane goes around the gold orb and the, the, um, the theory is, and it's worked for me twice so far. The theory is you want to ope, you want to hit open when the crane is closest to you as the player as possible. So what it'll do is it goes, I'm looking at it right now. So essentially it's like, it's swings all the way back and then it swings all the way to the front. That's not when you open it, it swing, it gets closer and then swings, uh, to you one last time before going through. And that's like gives you, I don't know, people, I mean people theorize about it, but you know, it's worked for me twice. I've gotten to 1 million gold poles from it.

Hey, you're going to suffer. If it's a placebo effect, if it works, it works. So I'll try to do it. I'll show it to you right here since I have right here on my iPad. So you'd pull it in there and it's glowing. Actually it's not this side. I see. I see it right there. Right there. Yeah,

they're right there. So essentially is when I would pull. So essentially it's like, girl, I'll wait for it one more time. This is like, if you're not a vision, obviously it's [inaudible].

It's hard to hilarious. Yeah. So anyway, you wouldn't pull it when it swings out here. Not here yet. Right there. So it does like that double tick on the second time. The second time, yeah. Oh, okay. So that's the crane theory. Tinfoil hats on, friends, tinfoil hats fully on for this one. Hey, it makes it, even if it doesn't work, it makes it more fun every time you're your bullying. I'm a 30 year old adult. I still play Pokemon. And every time I throw pickleball, I saw Presby rate as this is about to catch Pokemon, even though I know there's nothing happening there. You know what I mean? So whatever you got to do it, that's what makes the game. You gotta make the game fun. You gotta do it every time. I'm going to do that. Every time I open it. Oh, there you go. Crazy theory. Even if there's no validity behind it, it still makes it more fun to open.

Yeah, it definitely makes it more interesting. So there you go. You're welcome. You're going to enjoy the pool. A couple of 3 million golden works for that and uh, we'll see what happens. Uh, so going forward, we have our love it and hate it segment. I think, uh, Dom and I have given ourselves quite a bit of things to talk about for loving and heating it. So I think we'll just keep this to our guests if you're okay with it. Valley, tell me one thing that you love about the game and one thing you hate about the game.

Oh my goodness. Uh, how specific can we get? However, I, I could, I could, I could give a much better answer for this, but, uh, what do I love? I love, I love playing with the new characters and trying them out the new mechanics and seeing that stuff. Uh, so I'm loving playing with the supernatural team right now. I love the, whenever the newest team comes, I love using that. Yeah. That's cool. Um, what do I hate about this game? The, the sheer amount of time it takes to be competitive, to spend a lot of time in blitz and war and braids. And that'd be the only thing. Yeah. Don't look at your screen on the flip side. Sometimes I enjoy that too, so, right. So yeah, I guess at the time when I don't have it, cause yeah, when you're like trying to do what I know out

with family and friends and you're trying to do exactly this, right? No, hold on again. Yeah. That's the worst. Like we were, we were out last night for dinner with friends and I was trying to, like, I just like, I needed to get my blitzes in so that way I didn't have to like reach into my pocket and play while, while the three hours that we were out. So it was like I need to just to have a little something just, yeah. At the time it takes is, I definitely agree with that. I've, I've looked at my, uh, Screentime report on my Apple and it's not great. So yeah, it's all, it's all fun. It's all marble. Try for it. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. I'm a big Instagram horror, so I'm just constantly on Instagram. It's like metal shape for us and then easily Instagram. Nice. Yeah.

Nice. Definitely a. All right. So how did you guys do this week with red stars? I know Dom, you have an exciting one to talk about. Valerie, how to do well. I saved mine and open them in chunks. I didn't open any in the past couple of weeks. I opened it when Colson came out. I got two red stars and Colson. That's the last time I read open talking about my five minutes are Colson, but I'm going to brag about no. My goal for this week, my first seven star, which it's not like exactly the worst, but it's not the best. I got a seven star Cree cyborg. Ooh. Ooh. He's good. Man. Just a seven star alone. Oh my goodness. That is so I know a seven star, isn't it? Nuts. I know whales that have opened thousands of red star orbs literally and don't have a seven star, so congratulations.

Really cool. Uh, I think it like, do I buff up like CRE? So I put him maybe on some kind of like tech team. I don't know. Like there's some questions involving this character now. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah. I don't know. I don't know what you guys think. He's not the worst team, but I wouldn't recommend it cause you're, you're kind of a mid-game Claire. Yeah. From what I gathered. So I don't know if I'd recommend them so early. Yeah. But once you do unlock Ultron, who works really well with Ultron? Feeding that energy. Cyber does cyber again. He energy to a, I believe it's tech. Yeah. Yeah. Cause [inaudible] so once you get all on, there'll be a good, a brilliant sinners. I'll try and do this. I go far. So eventually he's great. He's so, he just hits, he hits so hard. It's insane. And you can see, pair him with a Cree Nobel and you'll get those assists. It's great. It's cool. It's really, I have a six red star, Cree Nobel and even she has like a truck. Yeah, man. Your guys' rosters, your red SARS are way better than mine. I don't lose any of them, so don't worry about that at that trade off. Yeah, that's true. We talked about last week though, I pulled a six red star King pen, so it's not doing me any good. Nice. Welcome to the club.

So it's so bad. Uh,

we're both crossing our fingers for King kingpin rework. That'd be great. Let me take anything. I'll take just like hits

and characters. Just that the red stars don't really benefit him. He's great because of his kit, not because of his status. Yeah.

Yeah. It just, even if the, the body guards got the stats from him with the red Sox.

Oh, that would be nice. Yeah.

Hopefully. Fingers crossed later on when you talk to vendor, they're here. Just tell them, I'm like, Hey, where are you working for us? Come on. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, he goes, ah, going on with a war results. How are you guys doing with war this week?

Oh, we raked up within like the first, now the start of the week. We lost our first, but we won our second a but yeah, last week we were at slaying it. Oh my God. We were on a roll. But yeah, this week off to one, one, one [inaudible].

Alright. Valerie, how you are two and one this week? I think we are one and two this week. I think we're going to lose the, we lost the one that, no action. Sorry. We lost the first one this week. We won the one year. Yeah, two days ago. And then we are, we're probably going to lose this one that we're currently in. So we're, we've got through less than four hours to go on this one. They're about to full clear us. Um, but uh, you know, we're in, we're filing in gold one, so this won't kick us out of gold one, which is nice. But we ranked up to gold one I think two or three Wars ago. So I kinda like the new war, uh, the league info, you know, it's great. We're, we're, we're silver too.

Um, I love it. The, in just even like now, like you, you're just getting better loot and stuff. I'm a, I'm a fan. I'm a fan.

So much better value for the time that requires than it was before these leaks.

100%. Yeah.

And it makes it, um, like I feel, yeah, I agree with the, the, the time put in feels justified. So especially when you're getting, you know, you're getting more serious about war. I know we're getting sick, more serious about war in our Alliance and totally. Um, some people like just can't keep up. So they're getting replaced and that's the thing. It's like, well, that's not like, it's not personal, it's just business. You know, he just got a, this is what we all want. It's better for the Alliance if you don't want to participate, you're the weakest link at that point. So

yeah, I think that we're about to do some housecleaning. I don't know, actually. No it don't add that in Charlie [inaudible] I know nothing.

No, nothing. All right. Fair enough. Uh, yeah. So anyway, uh, what, can you give us some team advice Valley based on, I'm going to, I'm, I'll throw out one question with this just because you, we kinda hit on it earlier. Some team advice for raids and you seven. I know, like I said, I was thinking about working on Wakandans, but then you said no, you should work on shield and, or [inaudible]

well, here's the thing about what is, what condoms are very good about punching across and punching down. They're not going to be doing that in ultimate seven. They're always going to be punching up and that's not where they do the best. Yeah. Um, let me just look at my saved squads real quick just to, uh,

yeah, I finally got my BKT to 200 K and it's just, Oh, they're so good. They're so good. Well, I mean, my, so the thing I have with the teams now is my BKT, like easily my best team outside of, uh, defender's, but I don't use defenders for anything really, you know? Um, I shouldn't, I'll wait till after this segment to ask about this. Go ahead. Finish [inaudible]

all right. Um, yeah, BKT BKT is probably the best one. Uh, Ultron if you got them. Uh, that kind of makes the team on its own. The team that I use is ultra and mantis Drax dr strange and hand century. And that one actually does really good in the rates as well. Yeah. Basically it's just there to protect Ultron. Characters are there to protect ultra on. Dr. Strange is there to kind of bring him back to life.

Oh my God, what a, what a delirious team. But

that's, that's actually a really good team. It protects doctor strange. This shield does okay. They're not that great. Um,X men awesome for one. No brotherhood is okay in ultimate seven, uh, my vendors, they're kind of a spotter team. Sure. You know, they'll do good, but I, I put, I have captain Marvel on that team as well, so they, they, they got some trickiness there. Right. Power armor is about damage and they don't really have the damage from what I've seen in the rates, what continents, if you said you're gonna use them for a sacrificial team. So if you're doing that, there'll be okay. Yeah, but I wouldn't expect them to kill a few enemies in ultimate seven that just put them to at least two, at least 200. I wouldn't expect them to do too much.

Yeah, I think that's what I'm going to try to get to. Cause I have, I mean I have Shuri at seven stars. I'm inbox. You had seven stars. I have black Panther at seven stars. It's just a clay and a Killmonger that I, I'm lacking on. But I would just like, you know, I just needs maybe something, you know, my defenders is my highest team right now. They're at 272 K for four that, and they tend to like, I'll throw in like if a, I'll throw in like a shield team to help you know, clear some alts and whatnot and maybe do a little bit of damage and help out, you know, sustain a little bit. And then I'll send in my BKT or B R T as I'm calling it. Um, and then I'll go and [inaudible]

they've been like, I've been using them as a like a old bait and also just like a huge AOE and then bring in BKT to like get that rocket all and hopefully finish everyone off and it's been like kind of working, but I can only do it for one note and use seven.

Yeah, that's, that's kind of what I've been experiencing and ultimate seven, the first two nodes, I could go in with my main team and just eat it. After that I gotta throw in other teams and then use my main team because my main team can't. One shot

than notes. Yeah. That man, that, that first boss note is a killer. Especially when they drop down all of the, uh, yup. When they dropped down like, like the last like nine characters all dropping wants and you're just like, they're just taking turns and wiping everyone out. I was like, okay, that's when you can bring inX men kilo. That's a good idea. Maybe I'll try that and we'll see what happens with that. But as you want, you want, you want to bring in your filler teams just so that hopefully could kill some enemies and they'll use their olds and then your big teams could come in and wipe them out. Right. You know, and it might, it might take all five charges for that one. No, it definitely does.

Definitely does. But you know, luckily there's the Boston and it's like you can team up with some people, but I tell you what, the one that really gets me is the one, cause I'm in the center lane, center left is where my lane is and the Ultron minions like or the the, I think the fourth regular node, the top left corner. That is just, they just one shot. Everybody with their basic, it's just insane. I do not like that note whatsoever, but I have to figure out maybe people have gotten some, some teams will not. And maybe I'll have to increase my, I'll try to get my level of maybe like 73 cause I'm currently level 72 right now. And then maybe that'll help with, um, you know, killing these Altron minions, which are like, and you know, cause it's the ultra and minions. It's that it's war machine, iron man, all that stuff.

It's just, it's just brutal. But yeah, they, they specifically picked all those characters for a reason. Yeah. I know. I was like a motherfucker. But anyway. Uh, so Valley, what is your favorite character right now in the game? Favorite single character. Yeah. Um, geez, this is some huge recency bias, but right now a ghost writer, cause I get to test out some new snare, you know, Hey, no, there's no, you can be bias, recency bias, you know. Oh, I love all those. My picks are always going to have a lot of recency bias. Right. It's okay. I totally, I totally am in favor of it. Cool. Awesome. Well Valley, uh, thank you very much for coming back on the [inaudible]

MSF insider podcast and you can find where we quit before we quit. I have one more question. Okay, go ahead. Oh yeah. Hi. First characters on the 50 13. It's Minerva. Whew. Okay, good. I know I'm missing 12 of one item. Where did the hell do you get superior gamma? Cause I'll tell you what, it ain't popping up from you. You've got to be lucky. And you're gonna potluck in the supply store once in a while and once in a while pop up in the rates. Endo Warstler as well. That's the thing about you're 13 and gear 14 is orangy progress and open your a thousand or more orbs. Right. That's what I've been doing. I've been saving up for this and now that they, they, they're starting to give them out like candy now. So it's like with the new, this has been the only thing that's frustrating.

Oh Dom, you need all try and eat Ultron and it's like I'm, I'm, I like to have my first year 13 character. That's what you need ultra on you. Every, you gotta every time you see a superior Nick in the store, right? Just 72,000 a buy it auto cue. What characters were they should do that need all of them. So whenever you see that, buy it, if you see it in a ward store, maybe buy it. But definitely the supply store, uh, spend your gold on all that because they are rare and you're super serious about getting Ultron. When I did it, I refresh that store six times a day. Yeah. So, okay. That's what is that? What does that 200 quarter's every day just to refresh. Yeah. It's silly. But I'd like to, if that's what you're trying to get and I definitely recommend doing that and it took about two months of refreshing the store every day to get the pieces I needed.

So it takes a while. Okay. That was my last thing before we end it. I'm sorry I looked up to take you so much for that because that's a lot of people don't know where they, they come because you might never see them. I've honestly been like, what's going? Yeah, that's, and that's my first character I met. I'm really happy. I'm really proud that she's on this. You're 13 like I, I did all the hair, but [inaudible] all the easy parts though. Note though. The hard part is getting going now. All right. All right dude. Thank you so much. And again, thank you. Uh, Valley of course. And you can find a Valley streaming on YouTube and Twitch on Twitch's twitch.tv/with Valley flying slash 76 [inaudible] 76 yeah, it's, which is the only weird when everything else, all the other social media, everything is Valley fine. And that was a youtube.com/valley flying.

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